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Appendix L

Posted July 9, 2017


Hymn Accompaniments:  Through the years, various individuals have compiled accompaniments for the hymnbook. Some made concordances or indexes to various hymnbook editions, so that a hymn number could be located by by looking up a key word. Some compiled booklets of unpublished hymns written by professing authors, such as John Martin, Sam Jones, Sandy Scott and Kenneth Dissmore. Lists of hymn authors were compiled and distributed. The accompaniments for the 1987 hymnal were listed above. Titles of some others used through the years are listed below:

Review of Hymns Old and New
, 1951 Edition
Information about the Hymn Authors By Bert Pattison

A General Index to Hymns Old and New (to 1951 Hymnbook)
Order from: Mr. C. H. Olds, 22A King's Drive, Levin, New Zealand

Collected Hymns (5 Volumes; 1-5)
Order from: P.E. Chamberlain, Box 313, Papakura, South Auckland, New Zealand
Note: TTT received no response from their attempts to order these.

S. Jones Hymns (undated)
Ordered from: Sam Jones Songbook, P.O. Box 3065, Camarillo, California 93010,
117 Pages, spiral bound; No compiler named (very old, probably not available now)
Sam Jones professed in Belfast, Ireland, and went into the work in 1902. He went to Western Australia in 1908. Sam died in 1946 in Rockingham, Australia, 30 miles south of Perth.

Hymns of Kenneth D. Dissmore (notebook)
A white binder containing numerous Dissmore hymns with a table of contents, assembled without a publisher. At Kenneth Dissmore's funeral held 4/13/93, a speaker at his funeral said that "He was a psalmist of our day, bringing true scriptural thoughts into hymns that inspire us." He was born 9/12/16 and died 4/9/93. He is buried in the Glenwood Cemetery in Dallas, Wisconsin.

Hymns By John Martin (undated booklet)
John Martin lived 1876-1956. From 1951 Review of Hymns: "Our old friend and brother John Martin went forth in 1916 from his home in County Sligo and for a few years was in the work in Ireland before going to Scotland. He was writing hymns before he went into the work. Although we only have two of his in this issue - Nos. 149 and 328, yet No. 149 is considered by many to be the best and one of the most useful hymns in the book, because it embraces so much that is dear to the heart of God's children."

Hymns by Sandy Scott
Printed at the County Press, Bala.
60 pages, 184 hymns, and 4 poems. Text only.
Inside: "Copies of this Hymn Book are obtainable only from Mr. H. Schultz,
182 Secrest Place, Penticton, B.C. Canada"

Poems by W. J. Hughes (undated) (Willie Hughes)
Auckland, New Zealand
Printed by Tasman Press Ltd, Otahuhu
For Miss M. R. Keatley, 83 Hall Street, Pukekohe, NZ
36 Poems, Brown Cover

Hymns by F. Willis Propp, 1996
No publishing information available

More than one poem was written commemorating the hymn book revision.

(To tune of "Be a Little Candle")

Eldon had a vision,
Joel dreamed the dream,
They could see a hymnbook,
They devised the scheme.
Glenn had the computer,
Elaine became the cook,
This is how it started,
Now just take a look

Maybe, N'er a better hymnbook,
Surely, Nothing could excel,
With so many helpers,
How could it go wrong?
All of God's own people
Will rejoice in song.

First the music panel
Labored over notes,
Then from all the world came,
Men to view the votes.
Oh, what glorious music
Rang from Veldkamp's door.
How it must have thrilled those
E'en on heaven's shore.

From our brothers northward,
East and south and west,
Britain, and "down under"
Poured forth just the best.
Then the project moved on,
Artwork to complete.
Endless proofing followed,
For approval meet.

Off to London proper
Our two brothers flew.
Made the deal at Allan's,
With no great adieu.
Now the final format,
Ready for the press,
From this book when printed,
All the Kingdom bless.

The late Howard Mooney, Overseer of Oregon for many years, used to tell a story about a hymn that was printed in one of the Leaflets, and was also No. 344 in the 1935 hymnbook.  "In the Hymnbook issued before the one we have now there was a song that was supposed to have been composed by an Irish singer, who came to this Country, thinking that she was finding Utopia and found herself in amongst brute beasts. When that young woman was breathing her last breath on a premature death bed, with her character wrecked and her life ruined, she composed these words:

Eternity's Awakening

"I stand on the shores of an unknown land,
On the brink of Eternity,
At last! At last! I can understand the worth of reality;
Earth promis'd me much! but my end is this; I die unheeded, unknown,
I drank with the many the cup of bliss But the dregs I drink alone.

Too late! Too late! No strong loving hand Can I see outstretch'd for me,
Alone on an unknown shore I stand, On the brink of Eternity.

The love that so many professed for me is gone when I need it most,
The joys of earth that were lavished free Full many a tear have cost;
And now as I touch eternity's brow, Life reads with a meaning new,
The real separates from the unreal now, The false joys from the true."

Books About Hymn Authors

The following books contain information about the authors and composers, as well as stories of how many of the popular hymns came to be written:

Songs of Glory: Stories of 300 Great Hymns and Gospel Songs
By William J. Reynolds
Baker Book House (January 1996); ISBN: 080105527X
Order from Amazon
Also available from Baker Book House Co

101 Hymn Stories
By Kenneth W. Osbeck,1982 Kregel Publications
ISBN: 0825434165
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101 More Hymn Stories
By Kenneth W. Osbeck, 1982, Kregel Publications.
ISBN: 0825434203
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52 Hymn Stories Dramatized
By Kenneth W. Osbeck, 1992
ISBN: 0825434289
Order from Amazon 

Amazing Grace: 366 Inspiring Hymn Stories for Daily Devotions
By Kenneth W. Osbeck, 1990; ISBN: 0825434254
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25 Most Treasured Gospel Hymn Stories
By Kenneth W. Osbeck
ISBN: 0825434300
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Amazing Grace : Illustrated Stories of Favorite Hymns
y Kenneth W. Osbeck, 1999
ISBN: 0825434335
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Singing With Understanding, Including 101 Favorite Hymn Backgrounds
By Kenneth W. Osbeck
ISBN: 0825434149
Order from Amazon 

Stories Behind Popular Songs and Hymns
By Lindsay L. Terry, Baker Book House
Available from Baker Book House Co.1-800-877-2665

Devotionals From Famous Hymn Stories
By Lindsay L. Terry, Baker Book House
Available from Baker Book House Co.1-800-877-2665

Great Christian Hymn Writers
By Jane Stuart Smith & Betty Carlson; Crossway Books, 1997
ISBN: 0891079440
Order from Amazon

A Treasury of Hymn Stories
By Amos R. Wells 1945/1992 Baker Book House Co.
A collection of 120 hymn narratives containing concise, brief biographies of mainly gospel hymn writers. ISBN: 0801097185
Order from Amazon 
Also available from Baker Book House Co.1-800-877-2665 or

The Gospel in Hymns
By Albert Edward Bailey, 1950, Charles Scribner's Sons.
Gives theology of hymns and hymn movements, creating context for the hymns and writers lacking in anecdotal books about hymn authors.
ISBN: 0684155540
Order from Amazon

Heritage of Hymns: An Exploration of Music and Religion, Music and Our Hymns, and the Stories of Hymns and Hymn Writers of the Restoration Movement
By Richard Clothier,1996
ISBN: 0830907378
Order from Barnes & Noble

Ambassador Book of Great Hymn Stories
By Janet McCelland, James C. McClelland
ISBN: 0907927998
Order from Amazon 

The Hymn: A Journal of Congregational Song is published by the Hymn Society in the United States and Canada. This excellent monthly journal contains the latest research on hymn-related topics, book and hymn reviews. This Journal also has a book service which carries an excellent selection of hymnbooks, books on hymns, and historic reprints.
Order from: The Hymn Society, 2800 S. University Dr, Fort Worth, Texas 76129 U.S.A.


Survey of Christian Hymnody
By William J. Reynolds, Milburn Price 1987, Milburn Books
ISBN: 0916642321
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Catherine Winkworth: The Influence of Her Translations on English Hymnody
By Robin A. Leaver, 1978
ISBN: 0570037883
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A History of Evangelistic Hymnody
By James Sallee, 1977
ISBN: 0801081114
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A Joyful Sound: Christian Hymnody
By William Jensen Reynolds, 1978
ISBN: 0030408318
Order from Amazon

Three Centuries of American Hymnody
By Henry W. Foote, 1968
ISBN: 0208005765
Order from Amazon


Dictionary of Hymnology: Origin and History of Christian Hymns and Hymn writers of All Ages and Nations
By John Julian (Editor), 1985
ISBN: 0825429609
Order from Amazon

Sing With Understanding: An Introduction to Christian Hymnology
By Harry Eskew, 1980
ISBN: 0805468099
Order from Amazon

Books Can be Ordered From: Amazon or Barnes & Noble

Hymns on line
Hear the Hymn Before You Choose it!
The Cyber-Hymnal


The Cyber Hymnal. Thousands of Christian hymns and Gospel songs from many denominations: Lyrics, audio, sheet music, pictures, history and more. Searchable, advanced Auto­play feature, free down­loads. New entries almost every day. User friendly. Biggest site of its kind on the Internet. - Search for Hymns an online source for Free Hymn Texts, Tunes, and Sheet Music; Lectionary and Psalter Resources; Audio and Data CDs; Free Downloads

Hymns Old and New Website

This site provides an index of Hymns Old and New, published in 1987 by R. L. Allan & Son. Previous compilations were published in 1919, 1928, 1935 and 1951.

Compilation copyright was registered in USA by Pocock & Martin in 1987 for the Christian Church in England.

The Hymns page provides a detailed index of the hymns. The Authors page provides a detailed index of the hymn authors, and translator detail is provided on the Translator page.

Concordance provides full line references for all words with 5 letters or more. Caution: large page which might take a while to load.

Sources of Hymns shows the derivation of hymns from Sacred Songs and Solos and New Hymns & Solos, compiled by Ira D Sankey and published about 1900; Redemption Songs (1000 Hymns and Choruses) published about 1900 and Songs of Victory (compiled by Andrew W Bell, published about 1900)

Bible References lists some obvious references.

Unusual old words provides a dictionary of some archaic words used in the hymns.

This Author wrote 9 hymns in the 1987 edition of Hymns Old & New:

001 Tell Me The Story of Jesus by Fanny Crosby
086  Jesus is Passing This Way by Annie L. James (pseudonym of Fanny Crosby)
146 Give Me Jesus by Fanny J. Crosby
141 Close Thy Heart No More by Fanny J. Crosby
160 So Near to the Kingdom by Fanny J. Crosby
085  The Savior with Me by Lizzie Edwards (pseudonym of Fanny Crosby)
303 Close to Thee by Fanny J. Crosby
228 Moments of Blessing by Fanny J. Crosby
400 When Jesus Comes by Fanny Crosby

The American hymnwriter, Frances Jane Crosby, called Fanny, was born on March 24, 1820, in Putnam County, New York. She was blinded by an illness when she was 6 weeks old. She wrote over 8,000 hymns in her lifetime, under various names, earning her the title of "Hymn Queen." She had the gift of being able to write poems on the spur of the moment; a chance remark often providing the inspiration. Fanny Crosby passed away at the age of 95. A simple little headstone on her grave in Bridgeport, Connecticut, states the name "Aunt Fanny," and these words: 

"Blessed assurance, Jesus is mine.
Oh, what a foretaste of glory divine."

This is Fannie Crosby's most famous hymn. (Click Here to read the words and hear the music) However the 2x2s reject the concept that in this life man can have assurance of salvation, so it is understandable that they never included this hymn in Hymns Old & New. Since the author Fannie Crosby obviously believed very differently from the 2x2s, why do they reprint in their hymnbook and sing the above hymns she wrote??

See Also:
Fanny Crosby used over 200 pseudonyms. For example, she wrote:
Hymn No. 154 The Saviour With Me under the name of Lizzie Edwards
Hymn No. 086 Jesus Is Passing This Way under the name of Annie L. James


Safe in the Arms of Jesus: Biography of Fanny Crosby
by Chester Hearn, Ann Hearn
Published by Christian Literature Crusade (January 1999); ISBN: 0875086659
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This Is My Story, This Is My Song by Fanny Crosby
Published by Emerald House Group Inc.; (September 1997) ISBN: 1898787417
Order from Amazon 

Fanny Crosby: Writer of 8,000 Songs
By Sandy Dengler
Published by Moody Press
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Fanny Crosby: The Hymn Writer (Heroes of the Faith)
By Bernard Ruffin
Published by Barbour & Co.
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Fanny Crosby : Stories of Great Christians (Heroes of the Faith)
By Bernard Ruffin on Audio Cassette
Audio Cassette Published by Barbour & Co
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Great Women in American History: 24 Women of Faith and Principle
By Rebecca Price Janney
Published by Christian Publications (contains an 11 page chapter on Fanny Crosby)
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What do all the Following Hymns Have in Common??

How many Meetings were started with:
319 In the name of Jesus gathering
144 Master Speak, Thy Servant Heareth
145 Speak Lord in Thy Stillness
124 Low at Thy Throne of Grace, We humbly bow
187 Search me O God
253 Bread Thou the Bread of Life
256 How precious is the Word of God

How often we chose and sang these favorite hymns in Meetings:
48 Have Thine Own Way Lord
88 I need Thee Every Hour
169 Counted In
178 Precious Thought my Father knoweth
180 God in Heaven Hath a Treasure
209 A Homeless Stranger
282 There is No Gain But by a Loss
289 Alone with God, The world forbidden
293 If all things were mine but not the Savior

Before the emblems were passed in Sunday Morning Meetings, how often we sang:
15 When I survey the Wondrous Cross
172 Cleansing for me
8 Wash Me O Lamb of God

How often Sunday morning Meetings were closed with:
240 Thou Thinkest Lord of Me
298 Give of our Best to the Master
314 Abide in Him
261 Lo We Can Tread Rejoicing

How often we sang in Gospel Meetings:
1 Tell Me the Story of Jesus
35 Was it For Me?
40 Satisfied
113 I have made my choice forever
166 Oh, What Will You Do with Jesus?

How many Gospel Meetings were tested with:
How many of us professed to:

101 Just as I am,
107 Come to Jesus
108 So Near to the Kingdom
109 Still Undecided
112 Out of Christ Without a Savior
83 Nearer Still Nearer

How many were baptized to this hymn?
54 From Every Stain Made Free

What was the sweet refrain sung at many funerals of our Friends?
308 Only Remembered

Q: What do ALL these hymns have in common???

* * * * * * *

A: They were ALL written by Outsiders!!

NOTE:  The following were condensed in Chapter 40:

About the Hymn Authors Who were Workers and Friends

Miscellaneous writings and letters giving the circumstances surrounding the author being inspired to write various hymns; author's testimonies, personal details etc. have been preserved through the years. Some are:

Clem Geue's Testimony, October 15, 1978, Lynwood, California
(Includes details about hymn author, Sam Jones.)

A Review of Hymns Old and New for 1951 Edition contains biographical sketches of professing hymn authors, written by Bert Pattison. NOTE: The "Review of Hymns" for the 1951 Hymns Old and New states that "Hugh Roberts was from Enniskillen," and that Adam Hutchison was formerly a "colporteur with The Faith Mission." It also says on page 4 that, "Robert Skerritt was in the work in the early days?" When exactly were "the early days" of a fellowship that is allegedly "from the beginning?" According to the 1905 Workers List, Robert Skerritt started in the work in 1902. Can it not be logically concluded, therefore, that the "early days" of the 2x2 fellowship were around the turn of the century? Robert (Bob) Skerritt, author of "Come, Let us Follow Jesus," was one of the Workers who left the main 2x2 group and followed William Irvine after he was disfellowshipped in 1914.

Letter dated 7/21/22 from Madras, India by Adam Hutchison, Author of:
Hymn No. 330Upon a Lonely Mount; Hymn No. 237 Jesus Trod the Pathway; Hymn No. 199 How Real To Know the Mighty Power of Jesus
Note at the bottom of his letter"This Brother heard the Truth as it is in Jesus when in Great Britain. Went to India to preach...He went to Burma to preach...but died soon afterward. Later it was learned he had taken scarlet fever. It didn't break out at first, but went into the bloodstream and he died. Among the things that were sent back was found another hymn, #199 'How Real to Know the Mighty Power of Jesus.'"

Author Sam Jones was born 1887 in Portadown, N.Ire - Died Apr 14 1946, age 68, buried in Australia. Went in the work in 1902. On Dec. 27, 1907, Sam sailed from London to Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.  On April 8, 1908, Sam and Bob Bashford, together with Tom Turner and Syd Maynard, sailed for Western Australia, PIONEERING the work there. Sam wrote hymns Nos. 16,18,19,21,30,34,39,41,46,47,49,52,53,55,57,60,65,67,71,74,75,79,84,85,87,89,93,97,99, 106,126,129,130,133,135,136,137,138,139,141,147,147,150,151,157,159,166,168,170,171,
(Sam Jones wrote MORE hymns than any other professing 2x2)
Clem Geue's Testimony, Oct. 15, 1978, Lynwood, California includes details about Sam Jones.

Author James Fawcett
: lived 1886-8/10/1958, died at age 72; born in County Fermanagh, Northern Ireland. He went in the work in 1904 and labored in Eastern USA. He was a cousin of George Walker. Spent his last days in Tallassee, Alabama. During his last year, he was trying to hold a few tent Meetings without the help of a companion. It was during that time that he passed away in 1958. Apparently he had done a lot of physical work on that particular day, and was sitting visiting with one of the Friends on her veranda. He mentioned the manner in which his mother had passed away suddenly, and expressed the opinion that something like that would likely happen to him sometime... and at that moment, having spoken those words, he died.
Wrote Hymn Nos. 173, 215, 221, 239 and 326 (in 1951 Edition).

Hymn No. 239 Cease Not To Praise God was written by James Fawcett.  Read letter written in August, 1995, by Word Records & Music, copyright owners of C. Harold Lowden, regarding music used without permission in Hymns Old and New, 1951 edition (Click Here to Read Letter in TTT Photo Gallery):

Author Mary McGregor wrote 6 hymns.  She wrote more hymns than any other professing female.  (Nos. 101, 286, 352, 355, 359, 361 in 1987 Ed.).  The Review of Hymns to the 1951 Edition states:  "Mary McGregor came from Bonnie, Scotland.  She wrote a number of helpful hymns -  Nos. 153, 210,  258,  285,  310 and 329.  No. 153 was written after hearing Jack Carroll speak of the different offerings.  No.  210 was written to help a young couple who had newly professed.  She wrote No. 258 when she heard she was to go to the States.  Originally, the hymn began, "I've opened my mouth to Jesus." The thought of the years passing prompted No. 310;  and 329 was written at the suggestion of a sister worker who asked for a hymn on "Going On."

Author Glenn Smith: Born in 1880, Glenn labored in the Eastern USA before going to South America to preach, where "it was very difficult because Spanish families just don't invite strangers into their homes, especially men and if some dared to do so, they would be expected to leave by or before time for the husband to leave for work." Glenn married a nurse named Helen, after she professed in their Meetings, and as a married couple, they were accepted in the homes more readily than single men or women. His overseers were not pleased with the marriage and a report was put out that Glenn had left the group, so naturally, the Friends withdrew their financial support. Glenn and Helen were citizens of South America and became associated with the Assemblies of God church. Glenn became ill and died in S.A. (3-19-90 Dorothy Doner Letter Letter to Mary Ann Schoeff). He wrote eight Hymns to his own music; Nos. 104, 212, 214, 227, 228, 229, 230 and 251 in 1951 Edition; and Nos. 83, 382, 350, 339, 381, 296, 181 and 341 in the 1987 Ed.). One account reports that Glenn returned to Meetings before he died.

Author Alexander (Sandy) Scott (1886-1968) was a Scotsman who preached with his wife Eva. Per the Hymn author list, "Sandy went into the work in 1909 and labored in Scotland, U.S.A., Italy, Spain and Canada." There is an old printed text only hymnbook of 184 of his hymns and 4 poems. He wrote Nos. 43, 52, 56, 57, 81, 110, 159, 164, 172, 291, 297, 302, 335, 343, 344, 398, 406, 410 (in the 1987 edition of Hymns Old and New).

Author John Martin: There is an old printed Leaflet of his hymns. The tunes in the Leaflet are tied to an edition of Hymns Old and New earlier than 1951. (Probably the 1935 hymnbook, since it is the only hymnbook that contains numbers as high as those used in John Martin's hymns.)

1951 Edition Hymns by John Martin:
149 O Blessed Lord, We Plead Again... (No. 4 Hymns of John Martin)
328 O Blessed Lord, the night, the night is falling (tune: Londonderry Air)
(No. 54 Hymns of John Martin)

1987 Editions Hymns by John Martin:
037 Nothing Matters...But Salvation was the last hymn John Martin wrote.
(No. 149 Hymns of John Martin)
180 O Blessed Lord
251 O Don't Be Led Captive

CHARLOTTE ELLIOTT:  The following quote gives the background of the author, and is from "Stories Behind Popular Songs and Hymns" by Lindsay L. Terry, pp. 171-173, Baker Book House Co.




"Probably the most widely used song of consecration today is "Just As I am." It has been called the world's greatest soul-winning hymn. Countless people have been influenced by this song to give their hearts and lives to God. A complete volume could be written telling of the wonderful happenings in connection with the singing of this one song.

"Its author, Charlotte Elliott, suffered most of her life from the ills of an invalid body. Many times her weakened condition caused her great lamentation. Such was the case in 1836, when her brother, H. V. Elliott, was raising funds for St. Mary's Hall at Brighton, England, a college for the daughters of poor clergymen. She wanted to have some little part but was hindered by reason of her infirmity. As she pondered how she could help the cause, Charlotte decided to write a poem relevant to others who were physically limited. She remembered the words of a great preacher, Cesar Malan, who had talked to her fourteen years before. He had told her to come to Jesus, "just as you are," words that helped her to find Christ.

"The resulting poem was published without Charlotte's name and was handed to her one day in leaflet form by her doctor, who did not realize that she was its author. Tears streamed down her face as she read the six verses and was told that copies of this poem were being sold and the money given to St. Mary's Hall. Miss Elliott then realized that she had at last made a significant contribution to the building of the school through the medium of her words of faith and humility:

"Just as I am, without one plea,
But that Thy blood was shed for me,
And that thou bidd'st me to come to Thee,
O Lamb of God I come! I come!

Just as I am, Thou wilt receive,
Wilt welcome, pardon, cleanse, relieve,
Because Thy promise I believe,
O Lamb of God, I come! I come!"

"Only eternity will reveal the blessings heaped on other lives by this song. Charlotte Elliott probably would have shouted for joy, if she could have heard the following story...

"During a song service in a church, John B. Gough was asked by the man next to him in the pew what was to be sung. Physically, the questioner seemed a most pathetic sight--victim of a nervous disease that had left him blind and twisted in body. The poor man joined the congregation in the singing of the song, "Just As I am." As they came to the words, "Just as I am, poor, wretched, blind," the wretched creature lifted his sightless eyes to heaven and sang with his whole being. Gough later said, "I have heard the finest strains of an orchestra, a choir and a soloist this world can produce, but I had never heard music, until I heard that blind man sing 'O Lamb of God, I come, I come!'

"Reflection: "Because Thy promise I believe..." Oh, that we could take God at his word! How thoroughly cleansed is the man who lets Christ wash him with His blood. Because God is our loving, heavenly Father, He makes it as easy as possible for us to be saved. It cost Him all He had, but our part is simple--we need only reach out and He will accept us unconditionally."

Ed Cooney's Hymns:

Hymns Old and New

As We Gather
Lord We Are Met Together
Our God, Our Father
Here We Come
Jesus Died for Sinners


Hymn Authors to go in the Work the Earliest (Workers)

Entered Work
Worker/Author's Name
1951 Hymn Nos.
1900 John Sullivan 13
1900 Thomas M. Turner 202, 236, 265
1902 Sam Jones too numerous to list
1903 William Carroll 140, 142
1903 William Weir 152
1905 James Jardine too numerous to list

Oldest Hymn Authors - 2x2s by age

Birth Year
Author's Name
Birth Country
1951 Hymn Nos.
1869 Charles Hultgren Norway 20
1872 James Patrick Scotland 148
1873 Adam Hutchison Scotland 199, 237, 330
1874 John Sullivan Ireland 13
1875 Robert Skerritt Ireland 80
1876 John Martin Ireland 149, 328

Oldest Hymn Authors - Outsiders


Hymn No.

1951/1987 Ed

Hymn Title
1091-1153 St. Bernard of Clairvaux 29/13 Jesus the Very Thought of Thee
1607-1676 Paul Gerhardt 209/ A Homeless Stranger
  " 180/351 God in Heaven Hath a Treasure
1674-1748 Isaac Watts 15/6 When I Survey
1697-1769 Gerhard Tersteegen 211/247 How Sweet It Is
  " 260/304 Come Brothers On
  " 261/305 Lo, We Can Tread
  " 8/95 God Calling Yet
  " 206/263 Thou Sweet Beloved Will
1789-1871 Charlotte Elliott 100/158 Just As I Am

REVISION PROCESS FOR THE 1987 EDITION OF HYMNS OLD AND NEW:  Most of the Friends remain in the dark as to why the 1951 hymnbook underwent a major revision. Some thought the purpose of the project was to make sure the hymns in the book would be in more accord with "what we believe," and that they would be "true to the Bible." Others thought it was due to expiring copyrights. The real reason turned out to be because some Workers wanted a new hymnbook--not because one was necessary!

In February, 1983, Ernest Nelson, Overseer of British Columbia, sent Workers a letter and list of hymns. He asked them to select the hymns they would like to be included in a revised hymnbook. It appears his request was distributed to all the English-speaking Workers worldwide, giving all the opportunity to vote:

"There are a number of Workers in Canada and U.S.A. that would like new hymnbooks. We have written to Percy Fletcher in England and he replied if the Workers in Canada would like to work on this project it would be all right with him. Percy said that when they made the last book, copyrighted in 1951, they tried to make an international English hymnbook, giving all the Workers a chance to choose the hymns they liked. The hymns that the most of the Workers liked were chosen....About 32 years have passed, and it may be possible for us to get copyrights on some of the hymns that were favorites years ago. We have appreciated the way R. L. Allan & Son has worked with us in the printing and distribution of our present hymnbook, and we would like them to handle the new book also."

Much of the work on the new hymnbook project took place in the home of Elaine (nee Bergen, ex-Worker) and Glen Lindermann in San Jose, California; and also at Bert and Freida Veldkamp's home in Los Angeles. A large group of Workers met off and on for quite a long period of time. It is not known how these particular Workers were chosen, but some of the Workers were known to have musical talents and abilities.It is not known if any Friends had a voice in the selection process. 

A photograph
dated April 6, 1985 of the Workers who compiled the new hymnbook was taken at Lakewood, California, and lists 25 Workers from around the world. They were: Carson Cowan (Ontario), Norman Henderson (England), Nathan McCarthy (New Zealand), Ken Paginton (England), Willis Propp (Alberta), Wayne Harris (Oregon), Eldon Tenniswood (California), Herwin Bell (Australia), Garrett Hughes (Colorado), Jonathan Wright (California), Charles Steffen (Illinois), Joel Boyd (California), Tharold Sylvester (Washington), Ernest Nelson (B.C.), Howard Mooney (Oregon), Hennie Groenewald (South Africa), Andreas Stark (South Africa), Irvine Pearson (Ireland), Jill Christianson, Virginia Boyd, Evelyn Gerlund, Marilyn Denio, Kathy Dunnett, Andrea Gronley and Heather Hansen. Some others were not in the photograph who also worked on the hymnbook. Some Sister Workers were present to prepare meals for the others. Workers attendees, Joel Boyd and Kathy Dunnett, were married soon after the committee finished. Reportedly, the Friends who were connected with the project received first copies of the new hymnbooks with their initials stamped in gold on the front.

The hymnbook project did not go smoothly–not all Workers wanted a new hymnbook.  There was a lack of unity regarding the endeavor among the Workers. Reportedly, it was a project of Eldon Tenniswood, Overseer of California and many other Overseers did not think it was necessary, and were slow to agree to help and even to use the new books. At first, the Workers in the Eastern United States chose not to participate in the hymn revision committee, giving evidence that the long-standing East vs.West rift in the U.S. that began with Jack Carroll and George Walker was still alive. However, as the matter progressed without their input, they later changed their mind, and sent some delegates to help the others who were hard at work on the hymnbook revisions. Reportedly, there were also some challenges and disagreements with the way the financial end of the project was handled. 

After Friends received their 1987 editions, some Workers asked them to destroy their 1951 edition of Hymns Old & New. Numberous lists were printed to accompany the new hymnal. A few were a list cross-indexing the old hymn numbers with the new hymn numbers; a list of all the New Hymns; a list titled "Singing Changes for Hymns Old and New-1987," and a "Theme and Subject List" compiled by the Alaska Staff.  Some additional supplemental printed bookets were:

  • Hymns Old & New Concordance, 1988 (to 1987 Edition) Printed in Canada.
  • A Concordance to Hymns Old & New (to 1987 Hymnbook)
  • Authors - Hymns Old and New (to 1987 Edition)
  • Hymns Old and New Concordance - Theme and Subject Index - Authors (Aug. 2004 Revised Ed.)

RE:  Spanish Hymnbook:
"Even though 'No se vende' was clearly printed on the first page of each hymnbook, which means 'Not to be sold,' we knew we would have trouble at the border carrying down hundreds of brand new books. The customs officials would never believe that we were going to give them all away and were not going to sell them. So we loaded them up in an old van, put them under a fake floorboard, sat on top of it, and smuggled them into Mexico. Technically we didn't do anything illegal, since we didn't get any money for it all, though it was rather shady! It just saved us a bunch of border hassles, which can tie you up for hours."

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