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Chapter 32
Revised May 28, 2016

Hymns Old & New

Who Wrote the Hymns in Hymns Old & New?
2x2 Hymn History
Go Preacher's Hymn Book
1913: The First Editon of “Hymns Old & New”
Editions of Hymns Old & New
R. L. Allan & Sons, Publishers
Hymnbooks in Other Languages
The 1987 Revision Process
Notable Changes
Hymn Accompaniments
When were the FIRST Hymnbooks in the World Printed?
Faith Mission Hymnbook
About the Hymn Authors-Workers & Friends
Hymns Written by Edward Cooney
The Oldest Hymn Authors
What do all the following hymns have in common?
About the Hymn Authors-Outsiders

Charlotte Elliott
Saint Bernard of Clairvaux
Paul Gerhardt
Gerhard Tersteegen
Isaac Watts
Horace Govan
Fanny Crosby
Horatius Bonar

The Cyber-Hymnal
About Hymn Authors - Life Stories

1951 Edition - List of Authors
1987 Edition - List of Authors
Review of Hymns Old & New, 1951 Edition
Go-Preacher's Hymn Book
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Who Wrote the Hymns in Hymns Old & New?

For over 80 years now, the friends and workers have been using Hymns Old & New, their official hymnal. It has been an important part of their lives. They read it, sing from it, study it, admire it, write about it, quote it, preach from it and love it. They are touched by the hymns, moved to tears by them, and make their choice while these hymns are being sung. The hymnal is the only item of literature which is published under the direction of the group's leaders. Therefore, this hymnal is the largest body of official doctrine, teachings and beliefs of the 2x2 fellowship. It is their only official publication, other than various lists.

A hymn is a poem first; then someone sets the poem to music. Many 2x2s have written spiritual poems, but not many have been set to music. Many of their hymns have been borrowed from other sources and included in their own English hymnal entitled Hymns Old & New. Many 2x2s are under the impression that both the poetry and music found between the covers of their hymnbook has been written and composed by their own people. This is not the case, however--far from it. 

Some 2x2s have complained that Outsiders stole tunes from their hymns, when in reality, the music had been around long before William Irvine ever thought about starting his 2x2 method. For example, "Jesus Died for Sinners" written by Edward Cooney uses the music for "Onward Christian Soldiers" (No. 10 in 1951 edition). The music for the hymn "O Blessed Lord, the Night, the night is falling" (No. 328 in 1951 edition) is to the beautiful tune of "Londonderry Air" also "Danny Boy." "When Life is Ended" (No. 333 in the 1951 edition) is to the tune of "Beyond the Sunset." The following quotes taken from VOT express the surprise and questions that often accompany a 2x2s discovery that the hymns in Hymns Old & New were not generated exclusively by the 2x2s:

"Number 35 in the 1987 book begins with 'God has always laboured human lives to win…' So I was very surprised to hear on Christian radio the same melody but with the wonderful uplifting words: 'Count your many blessings, count them one by one…' Different words! Same melody!"

"While in college…I talked with a Baptist roommate. One evening I was humming a hymn when she chimed in and started singing the words. Say what? These were PROFESSING hymns. Nothing WORLDLY like "Amazing Grace." Hymns that certainly no NON-PROFESSING person could ever know! Hymns which I believed WORKERS wrote. I was flabbergasted. I asked her how she knew the words. She said, "Well, they’re in our hymnal." No way! NO WAY! The following Sunday she brought back to our dorm room a hymnal from her church. We went through her hymnal and my "Hymns Old & New," and as I called out the titles, she responded, "Got it!" There were ones I named and she knew without even opening her hymnal! Not only did she know the titles, she would sing the entire first verse and chorus without looking them up! We sang together. Today, we know the true history of this WAY and know that these hymns were, indeed, taken from other religions. At that time, however, I was just sure the Baptists somehow stole those hymns from the WORKERS. It never even occurred to me that it is, in fact, the opposite." "Did you know that a lot of the hymns are Christian hymns and the words have been changed somewhat or changed completely? This is actually one of the first things that caused me to wonder! I began hearing the hymns of other churches and wondered: "If *our* Hymns Old and New is exclusively *ours,* why are these other churches singing them? And how come some of the words are not quite the same? And how come I know the tune but the words are totally different? I thought the workers wouldn't have ANYTHING to do with OTHER churches, so how CAN *we* be singing ANY of the same hymns?!!!" Really, I was VERY surprised!"

"When I was young I was told that the songs that were sung by others, and those that were on the Religious station in my one Aunt's radio, God Forbid she actually listened to a Religious station, were taken from the group. That is, they were copied by the world and the wolves in sheeps' clothing, as part of the deception that other churches used to fool the people. Interesting isn't it. Not only did I hear this from Mother, but also from some Workers. One older Lady Worker, I can't remember her name, that worked in Oregon during the 1940s and 50s, I don't remember if she was here in the 60s, commented on this in a discussion. The point was clear, the churches of the world took things from the "Truth" and Gods Way and copied them to fool others who were searching for the Way."

The Review of Hymns for the 1951 edition makes no attempt to hide the fact that many hymns were written by Outsiders. Bert Pattison wrote: "For the purpose of our study, we will divide the writers into two groups: those written by our friends and those written by people unknown to us. We will consider first the hymns set to tunes composed by the author or authoress, taking our friends first." As might be expected, 2x2s who came from outside religious backgrounds were aware that many of the hymns sung by 2x2s were not their exclusive hymns. The friends who had pianos in their homes were also aware of this, as they often played and sang from other hymnals for recreation; such as Sacred Songs and Solos (by Ira D. Sankey), Songs of Victory (Faith Mission Hymnbook), Redemption Songs - 1000 Hymns and Chorus, edited by J. H. Allan, as well as the Stanphill and Rodeheavor hymnals. While they had seen familiar 2x2 hymns also in these hymnals, the incongruity often didn't register with them that their official hymnbook contained spiritual hymns that were written by Outsiders they considered to be worldly and unsaved. The Impartial Reporter commented on this inconsistency: "And while the Tramps denounce John and Charles Wesley as having gone to hell, they sing the very 'devilry' written by Charles Wesley in some of his immortal hymns." (August 27 1908 Impartial Reporter)

The hymn "Just as I am...", is a special hymn that was often sung as many 2x2s came to their feet or raised their hand to profess, and was not even written by one of their own! It was written by an outsider, Charlotte Elliott, long before the 2x2s ever existed as a group, and before their founder, William Irvine, was born in 1863. Ms. Elliott died in 1871. Also, the well known first hymn in their book, "Tell Me the Story of Jesus," was written by an Outsider, Fannie Crosby, who wrote over 8,000 hymns in her lifetime, under various names, earning her the well deserved title of "The Hymn Queen."

Some, but not ALL of the hymns in their hymnal, Hymns Old & New, have been written by Outsiders. In fact:

  • 33% of the 335 hymns (112 total) were written by Outsiders in the 1951 Edition
  • 26% of the 412 hymns (110 total) were written by Outsiders in the 1987 Edition

The Website "Hymns Old & New" contains the following information in a section titled "Sources of Hymns:

"The spreadsheet below shows the source of hymns that have been published in the Go Preachers Hymn Book (1909) and then Hymns Old & New (Published by R. L. Allan & Son 1928, 1935, 1951 and 1987). Many have been composed by members of the 2x2 fellowship known as 'Friends & Workers) but other sources identified are:

"Sacred Songs and Solos (750 pieces) and New Hymns & Solos (138 pieces), compiled by Ira D Sankey and published by Morgan and Scott Ltd about 1900. The first edition may have been published about 1880.

"Redemption Songs (1000 Hymns and Choruses for Evangelistic Meetings, solo singers, choirs and the Home) published by Pickering & Inglis Ltd about 1900; and 

"Songs of Victory (A Collection of Hymns for Evangelistic Meetings, Christian Worship, Conferences and the home Circle, along with A Selection of Choruses) compiled by Andrew W Bell, published by R. L. Allan & Son about 1900. This was a Faith Mission hymnal. A later edition had 801 pieces.

"Of the 412 hymns in the 1987 edition of Hymns Old & New, 303 were composed by members of the fellowship, 83 can be found in one or more of the Hymnals pictured above, and the origin isn't known for 26."

Reportedly, the earlier hymnbook editions contained even more hymns written by Outsiders, although the number has decreased with each succeeding edition. This brings up the following questions:

  • How can it be that hymns written by workers and friends are in the same hymnbook as hymns written by Outsiders?
  • How could Outsiders write such meaningful hymns IF the authors did not have a bona-fide, true relationship with God??
  • How could the Spirit of God lead the workers to choose to include hymns in their hymnbook which are written by Outsiders from churches they condemn, such as Catholic priests, monks and Catholicism?

By the way, 2x2s are not the only ones who use Hymns Old & New. The Cooneyites (those who followed Ed Cooney after the Division of 1928) use the 1951 version. Also, there is a supply of the 1951 edition on the bookshelves of chapels located in Windsor, Hightstown, and South Brunswick/Dayton, New Jersey which were ordered years ago from R. L. Allan & Son, Publishers, when they were located in Edinburgh, Scotland.

Piano accompaniment is used at some gospel meetings in the USA, but hardly ever in Sunday morning meetings, although a piano may be in the room. Conventions and special meetings are usually acappella. However, there seems not to be a "no piano" rule for meetings in Holland. In the United Kingdom, no musical instrument of any kind is played in any meetings except for gospel meetings. In New Zealand, the piano was not played in the Sunday morning meeting, but was played in the other meetings (Sunday and Wed. nights and gospel missions).

2x2 Hymn History

In the early days, for many years the 2x2s did not have their own exclusive hymnbook. We know the 2x2s were not using a hymnbook in 1908, as the July 30, 1908 Impartial Reporter, noted concerning the Crocknacrieve convention: "The singing of the vast audience of hymns with moving tunes and choruses was a feature of that night's meeting. The hymns appeared to be known by heart."

The singing at the 1904 Crocknacrieve Convention was recognized by a reporter as being familiar hymns found in a popular hymnal of that day. The June 2, 1904 Impartial Reporter mentioned that "...more Songs of Victory were then sung." "Songs of Victory" is and was at that time the hymnal used and printed by the Faith Mission.

THE GO-PREACHER'S HYMN BOOK: In the United Kingdom, they eventually began to sing from a booket called the "Go-Preacher's Hymn Book." It contained 130 hymns, words only, and does not list a publisher or date. There is no music contained in the book, and an introductory comment states: "NOTE: Unless otherwise specified the numbers in brackets refer to the tunes in "Songs of Victory." The booklet is divided into sections with the headings: Conviction, Invitation, After Meeting, Saints, Servants and Solos. It was not uncommon in those days to hold an "AFTER MEETING." John Long mentions this practice; the Faith Mission did this, as well as other Revivalist preachers of that day. The After Meeting was for those who wanted to profess, or invite Jesus into their lives, and as the name implies, it was a meeting held AFTER the gospel meeting. 

There are no authors' names given in the Go-Preacher's Hymn Book. However, a number of the hymns have the initials E.C. beside them, (Nos. 14, 16, 57, 91, 92, 95, 98, 99, 100, 110, 115, 130). The author believes that E.C. stands for Edward Cooney because a poem written by Cooney is reprinted on Page 118 in Patricia Roberts' book The Life and Ministry of Edward Cooney; and this same poem is also Hymn No. 130 in the Go-Preacher's Hymn Book with the "E. C." notation beside it. Click Here to read these hymns by E.C. None of the hymns in the Go-Preacher Hymn Book by E.C. are contained in the current Hymns Old & New. There are a number of hymns in the Go-Preacher's Hymn Book (at least 35) that are found in the current Hymns Old & New. No. 68 is "When I Survey" and Verse 2 contains the original words of the author, "Save in the death of Christ MY GOD," which was changed in the 1951 & 1987 editions of Hymns Old & New to "Christ my Lord."

According to the Impartial Reporter & Farmers Journal, the Go-Preachers Hymnbook was used prior to 1913-14. (Click Here to view the Hymns and cover page of the Go-Preachers Hymnbook.) The hymns in the Go-Preachers Hymnbook are the subject under discussion in an Impartial Reporter article dated October 7, 1909, under the heading of "TRAMP HYMNS." (Click here to read article) It starts out: "One example of the low standard of education or want of knowledge of the Tramps is to be found in what they call a Hymn Book, which contains along with some well-known hymns, a surprising collection of doggerel—that a fifth rate newspaper would be ashamed to publish."

In some other areas of the world (such as California), before the first hymnbooks were available to them, some friends sang from the hymnal: Redemption Songs (sometimes abbreviated as R. S.), a "Choice Collection of 1000 Hymns and Choruses For Evangelistic Meetings, Solo Singers, Choirs and the Home," published by Pickering and Inglis, Ltd. London. In Eastern USA, they used a hymnal called "Songs of Victory," which is the Faith Mission official hymnal. It contained 801 songs compiled by A.W. Bell, published by R. L. Allan & Son; and later published by Faith Mission after they acquired publishing rights to it.  It was not until 1913-14 that the first edition of the official 2x2 hymnal, Hymns Old & New was published. "Howard Mooney told us that he and his Dad printed those first Hymn Books and before that they used 'Redemption Hymn Books' in gospel meetings and fellowship." (From Kaler's Memories of the First Days)

1913: THE FIRST EDITION OF “HYMNS OLD & NEW” was published, consisting of 256 hymns. Many hymns were taken from popular Christian hymnbooks, including the hymnal used by Faith Mission, “Songs of Victory.” (Note: the words only edition contained 255 hymns).  Ed Cooney and Bill Carroll were responsible for compiling this Hymnbook.

It was a full fifteen (15) years after the 2x2 sect began, that the FIRST 2x2 Hymnbook was finally printed in 1913, titled Hymns Old & New. The Impartial Reporter for July 3, 1913, stated: "On Sunday last a new hymn book entitled, 'Hymns: Old and New,' made its appearance. This book, compiled by Edward Cooney and William Carroll, consists entirely of hymns taken from such collections as 'Songs of Victory,' 'Redemption Songs,' and 'Songs and Solos.' The Go-Preachers Hymnbook is no longer used." [NOTE: The date of this article was 1913; while the Review of Hymns gives the publishing date of the FIRST Hymns Old & New as being 1914.] The reporter's statement regarding the source of the hymns in this hymnbook is mostly, maybe 100%, true regarding tunes, but it is not true regarding lyrics.

In the Early Days, a words only version of the hymnbook was used. The tune to the words was given in a note at the end of the hymn. For example, the note: R.S. #546, referred to the tune for hymn No. 546 in the book Redemption Songs. One song was to be sung to the tune of "Old Black Joe." Harold Bennett said one hymn was set to the tune of the love song, "Juanita." Eldon Tenniswood said at the 1975 California Elders Meeting (Click Here to read these notes) that: "Before we had music books, we learned the songs from those who sang solos at convention."

There were just a few music composers among the group of 2x2s by 1951. According to Bert Pattison in his Review of Hymns: "We now come to the composer of tunes, which will possibly be more interesting, especially to musicians. It is unfortunate that we come so very short in music and have to depend so largely on other people's tunes to supply the need, though it is possible there is talent amongst us if only exercised. Out of the 298 tunes in the book, we have only 31 composed by our friends." As stated previously, 33% of the hymns, or 112 all total, were written by Outsiders in the 1951 Edition; while 223 hymns were written by Insiders, or 67%.  More details about the hymn authors are given later in this chapter.

Editions of Hymns Old & New

Over the years, Hymns Old & New has been revised several times, and later editions printed. R. L. Allan of Scotland has been the publisher since 1919.  The FIRSTt edition was printed in 1913 by R. L. Allan & Son (141 and 143 Sauchiehall St., Glasgow, Scotland).  Some other versions were published in Australia in 1917-1921. Many editions do not show the date of publication. The following chart may help identify the various editions.

Words Only Edition:

1913:  FIRST Edition: 218 hymns; #1 Are you sowing the seed - #218 Within Thy Tabernacle Lord.

MUSIC Editions of Hymns Old & New:

  256 hymns; #1 As We Gather - #256 Bow Down Thine Ear (Music Edition). 
The Music edition had numbers 1-256, with #256 being an alternate tune for Bow Down Thine Ear (also #64). 
The Words Only edition ended with #255, Lord in Our Need (no need to duplicate words for Bow Down Thine Ear)

1919:  208 Hymns; #1 Don't you hear Him Knocking - #208 We Thank Thee Lord for Weary Days 
1922:  Supplement of 27 hymns added to 1913 Edition

1928:  New Edition.
  301 hymns; #1 As We Gather - #301 The Saviour now is seeking (plus Appendix of 12 hymns)
1935:  Supplement of 73 hymns was added to 1928 Edition (total of 374).

1951:  New Edition.
335 hymns #1 Tell me the Story of Jesus - #335 Called Home to rest

1987:  New Edition.
412 hymns #1 Tell me the Story of Jesus - #412 When Life is Ended .The 1987 Edition states on the copyright page: " Previous compilations entitled "Hymns Old & New" were published in 1919, 1928 and 1951."

The following Hymns Old & New have also been printed in Australia:

1913 or 1918
:  #1 A Ruler Once Came - #233 Why should I fear the darkest hour. (Printed by The Cumberland of George Street)

1917:  #1 A Ruler once Came  - #226 Why Should I Fear (Printed by The Cumberland Times Publishing Office, Parramatta NSW - not a music edition)

  #1 As we gather now together - #233 Why should I fear the darkest hour.  (Printed in Parramatta, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia)

It is interesting how many hymns in the currently used Hymns Old & New 1987 Edition can be found in "Songs of Victory." When the Faith Mission started in 1886, "From the first year of the work the Faith Mission had its own hymnbook" (Spirit of Revival by I. R. Govan, Chapter 15, page 113). "Songs of Victory" was compiled by Mr. Bell and published by R. L. Allan, Publisher.  The Faith Mission later took over rights to this hymnal and published it themselves.


The Supplementary Hymnbook, also called the " Leaflet," was introduced in 1940s in South Australia by Overseer John Baartz, who loved music. For nearly 50 years it was used in South Australia and was frequently changed, having eight additions. Only one leaflet was printed after John Baartz' death in 1964. The early editions were words only and each Leaflet contained about 12 to 18 hymns. As the years went by, the Leaflets grew in size and print quality and from words only to a music edition.

In 1941, Bill Carroll, Overseer of Victoria, published a Leaflet for the first time. Leaflets in Victoria ran for about 25 years with two editions. Included were some hymns by Willie Hughes, Sam Jones, and Bill Carroll's daughter May Schulz, who had written a number of beautiful hymns.

Leaflets were also used in meetings in the Western USA. Perhaps, Jack Carroll got the idea from his brother Bill and instigated them there. They were not used in the Eastern USA under George Walker.

The Leaflets continued to be used even after the new 1951 Edition of Hymns Old and New was published. However after the 1987 Hymnbook was printed, they were discontinued.

As to why the revisions were made, Bert Pattison gave some insight into this question in Review of Hymns: "In 1951, a complete revision was made, because the type had become so worn and the book so bulky; this necessitated many old favorites being left out so that room might be found for new ones...We were unable to obtain some tunes because of copyright difficulties. The owner of copyright of some hymns wrote: 'These tunes are married to the words and cannot be divorced.' Some composers also arranged with their publishers forbidding them to use the tune to other words than those they were written for. In some cases, we were informed, 'This copyright remains in force for 50 years after the death of the writer.' The difficulty will be more appreciated when it is considered that there are about 180 tunes in the book that have been copyrighted, although many are now free because of the time limit expiring. Some owners were very liberal in granting free permission, while a number charged for them; it may be mentioned, however, that our publishers were very fortunate in getting a number of U.S.A. copyrights by trading in exchange some of their hymn tunes, and they readily gave us permission to use any of theirs whether bought or exchanged." 

Currently, the English hymnbook compiled, printed and used by the 2x2s is Hymns Old & New, 1987 Edition, which is published by:

R. L. Allan & Son Publishers Ltd.
Unit 3, Thorogood House
Tolworth Close
Surrey KT6 7EW
Tel: +44 (0) 208 399 2352

Hymnbook Password: allan

R. L. Allan & Sons

The author has been unable to discover the circumstances that led to a business association between R. L. Allan & Sons and the workers. There are no current employees who worked for this publisher before 1970. The Director who formed the company is deceased. Reportedly, there was a fire in the 1920s or 30s which destroyed their early records, and remaining stock of the Go-Preachers Hymnbook.  Inquiries for information are further hampered by the fact that: "R L. Allan has no file room for past titles published by them...I regret that we do not have any copies of the 1919 and the 1928 editions of Hymns Old & New. ( 4/21/88 letter by Lynn Rogerson, R. L. Allan)  Currently,  it appears from their website that R. L. Allan is operating under the business name of Bibles-Direct ( .

R. L. Allan started in 1863 as a bookseller and publisher of religious publications in Glasgow, Scotland.  Pickering and Inglis bought the business from Mr. Smith in 1970, the R. L. Allan interest was designated to handle publications of the friends and workers. Eldon Tenniswood wrote:

"This week the sale of R.L. Allan & Son has been completed, and the new owner is Nicolas Gray. The company he owns now is called 'The Chapter House,' 26 Bothwell St., Glasgow, G2 6PA, Scotland. It could be that the new company will be called 'R.L. Allan & Son,' and all stock and future negotiations are removed to Scotland. Nicolas Gray is now preparing a new catalogue to publicize the new address. It will be sent to all account holders in Jan. with a covering letter announcing the change of management and prices, etc. We trust the new company will give us some good service and we look forward to further business with them. We are so thankful we have the new hymnbook printed, and so far everything is moving along as well as can be expected." (January 27, 1989 Letter by Eldon Tenniswood)

The author has been unable to ascertain whether or not any of the friends worked for R. L. Allan. Possibly, the workers contacted R. L. Allan because they also published "Songs of Victory," compiled by Andrew W. Bell, before Faith Mission acquired the copyright and began to operate their own publishing facilities. ("Songs of Victory" is the Faith Mission official hymnal.) Redemption Songs is published by Pickering & Inglis, the parent company of R. L. Allan. One who visited the facilities in Glasgow in 1981 wrote: "Most of the employees did not appear to be professing...I saw the shelves of Bibles, hymnbooks and Bible bags, etc. They noted that about 1,000 workers are on their order list worldwide."

TOURS: R. L. Allan & Son, Publishers, offered in one of their newsletters to give friends and workers a tour of their facility, by appointment.

You may view several letters from R. L. Allan & Son which are located in the TTT Photo Gallery. Following are quotes taken from letters which explain the R. L. Allan & Son history and connection to the workers and friends:

"R. L. Allan is exclusively for the Friends and Workers and we only publish under the R. L. Allan name IF the project was approved and or commissioned by the Friends and Workers." (By Lynn Rogerson, dated April 21, 1988) "R. L. Allan was a Bookseller and Publisher for secular books, second hand books and religious books, based in Glasgow." R. L. Allan started in 1863…and was to be found in Sauchiehall Street, later moving to St. Enoch Square which is now the largest glass building in Europe. (By Nicholas Gray, Director, dated April 19, 1994)

"Pickering & Inglis bought the business from the owner, Mr. Smith, in 1970 as a result of links following Pickering & Inglis' taking over the publishing of 'Redemption Songs,' a hymnbook which completed with Sankey's 'Songs and Solos.' When Mr. Smith retired, Allan had become the publisher to a group of Christians known as 'Friends (or Saints) and Workers,' although the arrangement is an informal one." R. L. Allan became a part of Pickering & Inglis, and at that point the interest [of R. L. Allan] became exclusively for the Friends and Workers. R. L. Allan is now part of a small group called Chapter House Ltd. which incorporates Pickering & Inglis at 26 Bothwell Street, Glasgow G26PA, Scotland. (By Nicholas Gray, Director, dated April 19, 1994)

"No one is left within the company who can remember more than 15-20 years of R. L. Allan, and the forming Managing Director of Pickering & Inglis has now passed on…I regret I do not know Mr. Smith's status within the Friends and Workers, or indeed whether he was a member" nor did he "…know how the Friends and Workers became associated with R. L. Allan...We only publish one book for the Friends and Workers--the rest of the product is distributed…Hymns Old and New is published in various languages, which we are only partially involved in." (By James Crockatt, General Manager, dated May 25, 1988)

The R. L. Allan copyright page in the 1987 Edition states:: "Previous compilations entitled "Hymns Old & New" were published in 1919, 1928 and 1951." R. L. Allan moved from Glasgow and opened for business in London on December 2, 2013.

Hymnbooks Used in Other Countries

The Great Mexican Hymnbook Smuggle took place in 1979. The newest edition of the Spanish hymnbooks were printed in Canada, bound in Los Angeles, California, and smuggled to Mexico. The Spanish hymnbooks are not sold--they are given out free to the Latin American friends, and presumably to those in Spain, so the Spanish-speaking friends do not have to buy their hymnbooks as do the Americans and Canadians. They were never copyrighted, and distributinjg them freely is how they avoid dealing with copyrights. It uses some tunes such as "I Know Who Holds Tomorrow" and "Each Step I Take" which have never been in the English hymnbook and are still in copyright by their authors and/or composers--if by permission, it does not say so. One of the smugglers is a relative of the author and wrote:

"Even though 'No se vende' was clearly printed on the first page of each hymnbook, which means 'Not to be sold,' we knew we would have trouble at the border carrying down hundreds of brand new books. The customs officials would never believe that we were going to give them all away and were not going to sell them. So we loaded them up in an old van, put them under a fake floorboard, sat on top of it, and smuggled them into Mexico. We even smuggled in a whole piano that way too! Took it apart and stored it in pieces in the van, and gave it to some of the friends . Technically we didn't do anything illegal, since we didn't get any money for it all, though it was rather shady! It just saved us a bunch of border hassles, which can tie you up for hours."

Other languages the 2x2 hymnbook is printed in are: French, German, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Afrikaans, Norwegian, Swedish, Finnish, Italian, Korean, Tagalog, Malagasy, Icelandic, and there are probably others also. The French hymnbook may be obtained through R. L. Allan & Son Publishers. The Dutch hymnbook carries the notation: "This hymnal is not to be sold." The bilingual countries of Switzerland and Luxembourg both use the French and German hymnbooks. In Belgium, they sing in French. One very old hymnbook was located which was printed in Parramatta, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia. Currently, the Australians use the latest version printed by R. L. Allan. Foreign books often have a title similar to the English title of Hymns Old & New, though in the appropriate language, of course

French: Hymnes Anciennes et Nouvelles (Hymns Old and New)
French: Cantiques (Songs)
Dutch: Liederen (Songs)
German: Alte und neue Lieder (Old and New Songs)

A colored lady from South Africa commented on a hymn in the book that did not characterize her experience:

"From the very start of the meetings in South Africa, the workers practiced racial segregation in their meetings--when the concept was still foreign to South African people, before segregation came in. That’s all I ever knew growing up in South Africa. The workers would later lie to the people, saying that it was a law to sit separately or mix during worship. They not only told lies, they sang them too! To add to our misery, we would all participate in that beautiful hymn at conventions:

"In Christ, there is no East or West, In Him, no South or North.
‘Tis ONE the Shepherd's sacred flock, Though scattered o’er the earth.
...As brothers, sisters of one faith, Whatever their tongue or race,
United stand, from bondage free, True monuments of grace.”

(Hymn No. 335 - Memories of Sheila Martin)

The Revision Process for the 1987 Edition of Hymns Old & New

As to why the 1951 hymnbook underwent a major revision, most of the friends remain in the dark. Some thought the purpose of the project was to make sure the hymns in the book would be in accord with "what we believe," and that they would be "true to the Bible." Others thought it was due to expiring copyrights. The real reason turned out to be because some workers wanted a new hymnbook--not because one was necessary!

In February, 1983, Ernest Nelson sent the workers a letter and list of hymns and asked them to select the hymns they would like to have included in a revised hymnbook. From a statement of his, it would seem that this letter was distributed to all the English-speaking workers worldwide, giving all the opportunity to vote:

"There are a number of workers in Canada and U.S.A. that would like new hymnbooks. We have written to Percy Fletcher in England and he replied if the workers in Canada would like to work on this project it would be all right with him. Percy said that when they made the last book, copyrighted in 1951, they tried to make an international English hymnbook, giving all the workers a chance to choose the hymns they liked. The hymns that the most of the workers liked were chosen. However, some hymns had to be omitted, due to the difficulty in getting copyrights. About 32 years have passed, and it may be possible for us to get copyrights on some of the hymns that were favorites years ago. We have appreciated the way R. L. Allan & Son has worked with us in the printing and distribution of our present hymnbook, and we would like them to handle the new book also."

Much of the work on the new hymnbook project took place in the home of Elaine (nee Bergen, ex-worker) and Glen Lindermann in San Jose, California; and also at Bert & Freida Veldkamp's home in Los Angeles. A large group of workers met off and on for quite a long period of time. It is not known how these particular workers were chosen, but some of the workers were known to have musical talents and abilities. It is doubtful that any of the friends had any voice in the hymn selections. A photograph dated April 6, 1985 of the workers who compiled the new hymnbook is taken at Lakewood, California, and lists 25 workers from around the world. They are: Carson Cowan (Ontario), Norman Henderson (England), Nathan McCarthy (New Zealand), Ken Paginton (England), Willis Propp (Alberta), Wayne Harris (Oregon), Eldon Tenniswood (California), Herwin Bell (Australia), Garrett Hughes (Colorado), Jonathan Wright (California), Charles Steffen (Illinois), Joel Boyd (California), Tharold Sylvester (Washington), Ernest Nelson (B.C.), Howard Mooney (Oregon), Hennie Groenewald (South Africa), Andreas Stark (South Africa), Irvine Pearson (Ireland), Jill Christianson, Virginia Boyd, Evelyn Gerlund, Marilyn Denio, Kathy Dunnett, Andrea Gronley and Heather Hansen.

Reportedly, Ron Thomke (New Jersey) and either Lars or Erik Lund (Danish workers) also worked on the book, but were not in the picture. Some of the sister workers were present to cook for the others. Workers attendees Joel Boyd and Kathy Dunnett were married soon after the committee finished. Reportedly, the friends who were connected with the project got first copies of the new hymnbooks with their initials stamped in gold on the front. The hymnbook project did not go smoothly--not all workers wanted a new hymnbook. There was a lack of unity regarding the endeavor among the workers. Reportedly, it was a project of Eldon Tenniswood, Overseer of California and many other overseers did not think it was necessary, and were slow in agreeing to help and even to use the new books. At first, the workers in the Eastern United States chose not to participate in the hymn revision committee, giving evidence that the long-standing East vs.West feud in the USA that began with Jack Carroll and George Walker is still alive and well. However, as the matter progressed without their input, they later changed their mind, and sent some delegates to help the others who were hard at work on the hymnbook revisions. There were also some challenges and disagreements with the way the financial end of the project was handled. More than one poem was written commemorating the hymn book revision.

(To tune of "Be a Little Candle")

Eldon had a vision,
Joel dreamed the dream,
They could see a hymnbook,
They devised the scheme.
Glenn had the computer,
Elaine became the cook,
This is how it started,
Now just take a look

Maybe, N'er a better hymnbook,
Surely, Nothing could excel,
With so many helpers,
How could it go wrong?
All of God's own people
Will rejoice in song.

First the music panel
Labored over notes,
Then from all the world came,
Men to view the votes.
Oh, what glorious music
Rang from Veldkamp's door.
How it must have thrilled those
E'en on heaven's shore.

From our brothers northward,
East and south and west,
Britain, and "down under"
Poured forth just the best.
Then the project moved on,
Artwork to complete.
Endless proofing followed,
For approval meet.

Off to London proper
Our two brothers flew.
Made the deal at Allan's,
With no great adieu.
Now the final format,
Ready for the press,
From this book when printed,
All the Kingdom bless.

After receiving their 1987 editions, some workers asked the friends to destroy their 1951 edition of Hymns Old & New. A profusion of lists were printed to accompany the new hymnal. Lists cross-indexing the old hymn numbers with the new hymn numbers; a list of all the New Hymns; a list titled "Singing Changes for Hymns Old and New-1987;" a "Theme and Subject List" compiled by the Alaska Staff, to mention a few. Some other supplemental printed aids were:

Hymns Old & New Concordance, 1988 (to 1987 Edition)
Order from: Al Habicht, c/o 734 First Avenue North, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada S7K 1Y1. Printed in Canada.

A Concordance to Hymns Old & New (to 1987 Hymnbook)
Order from: Mr. C. H. Olds, 22A King's Drive, Levin, New Zealand

Authors - Hymns Old and New (1987 Edition)
Order from: Joyce Major, 4240 Folker St. B-102
Anchorage, AK 99508
OR Al Habicht, 734 First Ave. North
Saskatoon, SK Canada S7K 1Y1

Hymns Old and New Concordance - Authors, Theme & Subject Index
August 2004 Revised Edition - Printed in Canada
Order from: Al Habicht, c/o 734 First Avenue North
Saskatoon, Sashatchewan, Canada S7K 1Y1

Evernote English Cconcordance of Hymns Old and New - online

Notable Changes

There were numerous changes made in the 1987 edition of the hymnal. A Topical Index was added, something many other denominations have included in their hymnals for years.  Pause commas were added to the new hymnbook, indicating a place to break the rhythm of the hymn, in order to take a breath.

The 1987 edition does not supply the names of the authors of the hymn words or the composers of the music. One must refer to one of the separate lists mentioned above to obtain this information. There were 36 hymns that were licensed from outsiders for the publication of Hymns Old and New, 1987 edition, covered by ©.

If the music was composed by an Outsider and is copyrighted, the copyright permission is given at the end of the hymn.  Composers names are not shown.  R. L. Allan stated that the reason for omitting the credits was that: "Part of the agreement concerning the New Hymn Book [1987] was that the authors were to be kept anonymous to avoid unhealthy pride, etc." (By James Crockatt, General Manager, dated May 25, 1988).

In the 1951 edition, if the author of the words was an Outsider, their name was printed on the left under the title of the hymn; and the name of the hymn in the Index was typed in all capital letters. However, if the author of the words was an Insider, no name was given at the top of the hymn page, and the hymn title was typed in title case in the index. The music composer's name was printed on the right; and in some cases, the name of the music tune is found in the center under the hymn title. Lists were also circulated which gave the names of all the composers and authors on them (except for Edward Cooney's name).

In the 1987 edition, there are two methods that can be used to determine whether or not a hymn in Hymns Old & New was written by an Insider or Outsider:

The Hymn Author Index shows the names of Insider authors typed in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS; while the names of Outsiders authors are typed in title case letters. NOTE: this "index" is NOT the one in the backof the hymnbook. It is a separate booklet printed in Canada titled: HYMNS OLD AND NEW (1987 EDITION) AUTHORS.
Hymns with "Words: (copyright symbol)*" at the end were written by Insiders; while hymns without a reference to "Words:" at the end without a copyright symbol were written by Outsiders.

NOTE: In the index located in the back of Hymns Old & New, listings shown in lower case indicates the first words of the first line of the hymn, whereas listings shown in upper case indicates the first words of the chorus.

There were 36 hymns for which tunes and/or lyrics were licensed from "outsiders" for the 1987 edition, and all are noted with © in the book.  If the hymn doesn't say "Words" or "Music" then it is both. There are two Outsider hymns with unexpired © protection on the lyrics: 197 and 215.  Several more Outsider tunes are still ©. 

Hymn Accompaniments

Through the years, various individuals have compiled accompaniments for the hymnbook. Some made concordances or indexes to various hymnbook editions, so that a hymn number could be located by by looking up a key word. Some compiled booklets of unpublished hymns written by professing authors, such as John Martin, Sam Jones, Sandy Scott and Kenneth Dissmore. Lists of hymn authors were compiled and distributed. The accompaniments for the 1987 hymnal were listed above. Titles of some others used through the years are listed below:

Review of Hymns Old & New, 1951 Edition
Information about the Hymn Authors By Bert Pattison

A General Index to Hymns Old & New (to 1951 Hymnbook)
Order from: Mr. C. H. Olds, 22A King's Drive, Levin, New Zealand

Collected Hymns (5 Volumes; 1-5)
Order from: P.E. Chamberlain, Box 313, Papakura, South Auckland, New Zealand
Note: TTT received no response from their attempts to order these.

S. Jones Hymns (undated)
Ordered from: Sam Jones Songbook, P.O. Box 3065, Camarillo, California 93010,
117 Pages, spiral bound; No compiler named (very old, probably not available now)
Sam Jones professed in Belfast, Ireland, and went into the work in 1902. He went to Western Australia in 1908. Sam died in 1946 in Rockingham, Australia, 30 miles south of Perth.

Hymns of Kenneth D. Dissmore (notebook)
A white binder containing numerous Dissmore hymns with a table of contents, assembled without a publisher. At Kenneth Dissmore's funeral held 4/13/93, a speaker at his funeral said that "He was a psalmist of our day, bringing true scriptural thoughts into hymns that inspire us." He was born 9/12/16 and died 4/9/93. He is buried in the Glenwood Cemetery in Dallas, Wisconsin.

Hymns By John Martin (undated booklet)
John Martin lived 1876-1956. From 1951 Review of Hymns: "Our old friend and brother John Martin went forth in 1916 from his home in County Sligo and for a few years was in the work in Ireland before going to Scotland. He was writing hymns before he went into the work. Although we only have two of his in this issue - Nos. 149 and 328, yet No. 149 is considered by many to be the best and one of the most useful hymns in the book, because it embraces so much that is dear to the heart of God's children."

Hymns by Sandy Scott
Printed at the County Press, Bala.
60 pages, 184 hymns, and 4 poems. Text only.
Inside: "Copies of this Hymn Book are obtainable only from Mr. H. Schultz,
182 Secrest Place, Penticton, B.C. Canada"

Poems by W. J. Hughes (undated) (Willie Hughes)
Auckland, New Zealand
Printed by Tasman Press Ltd, Otahuhu
For Miss M. R. Keatley, 83 Hall Street, Pukekohe, NZ
36 Poems, Brown Cover

Hymns by F. Willis Propp, 1996
No publishing information available

Table Grace Cards
Many religions and cultures have their own traditional blessings and prayers of thanks before or after meals. Many households observe the tradition of pausing before a meal to give thanks for the food and other good things in their lives and on their tables. Normally, in a 2x2 host asks someone to say grace aloud for the group, or the host says it himself. Sometimes the group sings one al Table Grace selected by the host. Children may be asked to say grace, but usually not when guests are present. The group may be standing or seated. They do not hold hands. Click Here to view a Table "Grace" Card of verses the 2x2s sometimes sing before eating their meals.

When Were the First Hymnbooks in the World Printed?

In 1913-14, the FIRST 2x2 Hymnbook was printed, titled Hymns Old & New.

In 1450, Johannes Gutenberg invented the printing press in Mainz, Germany, followed by the development of movable type in the year, 1454. Before these inventions, books were scarce, and it took months and sometimes years to draft a new book or Bible by hand.

In 1501, what is thought to be FIRST Protestant collection of hymns in the vernacular was published in Bohemia by the Bohemian Brethren.

In 1524, the First Lutheran hymnbook appeared in Wittenberg.

In 1538, the Genevan hymnbook was published by Calvin at Strasbourg, France (Calvin had been expelled from Geneva).

In 1539, the first Dutch hymnbook appeared at Antwerp, titled "Little Spiritual Songs."

In 1539, the first British hymnbook appeared, which was Coverdale's "Goostly Psalmes."

In 1612, Henry Ainsworth prepared a hymnbook (Psalter) in Holland for the Pilgrims' use which they brought with them to America.

In 1640, the first book printed in North America for the English speaking colonies was the hymnbook titled "The Bay Psalm Book," published by Cambridge.

In 1886, the FIRST year the Faith Mission started, "From the first year of the work the Faith Mission had its own hymnbook" (Spirit of Revival by I. R. Govan, Chapter 15, page 113). Songs of Victory was compiled by Mr. Bell and published by R. L. Allan, Publisher. The Faith Mission later took over rights to this hymnal and published it themselves

NOTE: In 1913-14, the FIRST 2x2 hymnbook was printed, titled Hymns Old & New.

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QUESTION: IF the 2x2 fellowship and ministry has continued from the New Testament days, why wasn't their FIRST hymnbook printed long before 1913?

QUESTION: IF the 2x2 fellowship and ministry has continued from the New Testament days, why aren't they singing NUMEROUS hymns that were written by workers or friends several years--even centuries--prior to 1900??

Yes, there ARE hymns found in Hymns Old & New that were composed before 1900. However, try as hard as you can, but you will not find a hymn written by a worker or friend before 1900. Why? Is there a plausible reason for this? Yes--because there were no friends or workers existing before 1900. A list of the five (5) oldest Insider and Outsider Authors follows.

There are two ways to easily verify that not even ONE hymn in Hymns Old & New was written by someone who went into the work or professed before 1900:

  • The Hymn Author Index shows the names of Insider authors typed in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS; while the names of Outsiders are typed in title case letters.
  • Hymns with "Words: (copyright symbol)*" at the end were written by Insiders; while hymns without a reference to "Words:" at the end without a copyright symbol were written by Outsider.

    The Faith Mission Hymnal

Inside the front cover of the Third Edition of "Songs of Victory," the hymnal used by the Faith Mission, is the following statement of explanation:

"The Earlier Editions of 'Songs of Victory,' compiled by the late Mr. A. W. Bell, enjoyed a good measure of popularity, but for a number of years it was out of print. Feeling that there was a distinct place for it, the Faith Mission acquired the copyright of the book, issuing it in a revised and abridged form in 1922. In the years since, the book has established itself as the hymn book of the Faith Mission, and there has been a demand for it in wider circles also...We commit the book anew to Him who had laid upon us the injunction--'Be filled with the Spirit, speaking one to another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody with your heart to the Lord.' "  [Eph. 5:18,19, R.V.]

Before Faith Mission acquired the copyright to "Songs of Victory" (801 Pieces in all) which was compiled by Andrew W. Bell, it was published by R. L. Allan & Son in Glasgow, Scotland and London, England.

The hymn writer Horace Govan (1866-1932) was the BROTHER of the founder of the FAITH MISSION, John G. Govan.  He wrote the hymn: "O Wanderers, Come to Jesus," which is Hymn No. 119 in the 1987 Edition of Hymns Old & New. The first line of Hymn  No. 30 of the 1909 Go Preacher Hymn was written by Horace Govan: "O sinners, come to Jesus!"  In the 1951 and 1987 Editions of Hymns Old and New the word "sinners" is changed to "wanderers," and the hymn title has been changed to: "O Wanderers, Come to Jesus."

The Hymn Authors Booklet for 1987 Edition of Hymns Old & New (Click here to View this Booklet) states about Horace Govan: "Author was a citizen of the U.S.A." However, a letter dated April 26, 1994, from Keith H. Percival, General Director of Faith Mission confirmed this information is incorrect.

"Horace Govan, John George's younger brother, visited the USA briefly, but was never a citizen...Horace Govan wrote Hymn No. 119 used in Hymns Old & New, but the word 'sinners' (which is correct) has been changed to 'wanderers! ' "

Also, the last stanza of Govan's hymn was originally written:

"If but in true repentance,
Before His cross you bow
He'll give you free forgiveness
And full salvation--NOW."

This was changed in Hymns Old & New Editions 1951 (No. 70) and 1987 (No. 119) so that it reads:

"If but in true repentance,
Before His cross you bow
He'll give you free forgiveness
And His salvation now."

About the Hymn Authors Who were Workers & Friends

Miscellaneous writings and letters giving the circumstances surrounding the author being inspired to write various hymns; author's testimonies, personal details etc. have been preserved through the years. Some are:

Clem Geue's Testimony, October 18, 1978, Lynwood, California
(Includes details about hymn author, Sam Jones.)

A Review of Hymns Old and New for 1951 Edition contains biographical sketches of professing hymn authors, written by Bert Pattison. NOTE: The "Review of Hymns" for the 1951 Hymns Old and New states that "Hugh Roberts was from Enniskillen," and that Adam Hutchison was formerly a "colporteur with The Faith Mission." It also says on page 4 that, "Robert Skerritt was in the work in the early days?" When exactly were "the early days" of a fellowship that is allegedly "from the beginning?" According to the 1905 Workers List, Robert Skerritt started in the work in 1902. Can it not be logically concluded, therefore, that the "early days" of the 2x2 fellowship were around the turn of the century? Robert (Bob) Skerritt, author of "Come, Let us Follow Jesus," was one of the workers who left the main 2x2 group and followed William Irvine after he was disfellowshipped in 1914.

Letter dated 7/21/22 from Madras, India by Adam Hutchison, Author of:
Hymn No. 330Upon a Lonely Mount; Hymn No. 237 Jesus Trod the Pathway; Hymn No. 199 How Real To Know the Mighty Power of Jesus
Note at the bottom of his letter"This Brother heard the Truth as it is in Jesus when in Great Britain. Went to India to preach...He went to Burma to preach...but died soon afterward. Later it was learned he had taken scarlet fever. It didn't break out at first, but went into the bloodstream and he died. Among the things that were sent back was found another hymn, #199 'How Real to Know the Mighty Power of Jesus.'"

Author Sam Jones was born 1887 in Portadown, N.Ire - Died Apr 14 1946, age 68, buried in Australia. Went in the work in 1902. On Dec. 27, 1907, Sam sailed from London to Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.  On April 8, 1908, Sam and Bob Bashford, together with Tom Turner and Syd Maynard, sailed for Western Australia, PIONEERING the work there. Sam wrote hymns Nos. 16,18,19,21,30,34,39,41,46,47,49,52,53,55,57,60,65,67,71,74,75,79,84,85,87,89,93,97,99, 106,126,129,130,133,135,136,137,138,139,141,147,147,150,151,157,159,166,168,170,171,
(Sam Jones wrote MORE hymns than any other professing 2x2)

Author James Fawcett
: lived 1886-8/10/1958, died at age 72; born in County Fermanagh, Northern Ireland. He went in the work in 1904 and labored in Eastern USA. He was a cousin of George Walker. Spent his last days in Tallassee, Alabama. During his last year, he was trying to hold a few tent meetings without the help of a companion. It was during that time that he passed away in 1958. Apparently he had done a lot of physical work on that particular day, and was sitting visiting with one of the friends on her veranda. He mentioned the manner in which his mother had passed away suddenly, and expressed the opinion that something like that would likely happen to him sometime... and at that moment, having spoken those words, he died.
Wrote Hymn Nos. 173, 215, 221, 239 and 326 (in 1951 Edition).

Hymn No. 239 Cease Not To Praise God was written by James Fawcett.  Read letter written in August, 1995, by Word Records & Music, copyright owners of C. Harold Lowden, regarding music used without permission in Hymns Old & New, 1951 edition (Click Here to Read Letter in TTT Photo Gallery):

Author Mary McGregor wrote 6 hymns.  She wrote more hymns than any other professing female.  (Nos. 101, 286, 352, 355, 359, 361 in 1987 Ed.).  The Review of Hymns to the 1951 Edition states:  "Mary McGregor came from Bonnie, Scotland.  She wrote a number of helpful hymns -  Nos. 153, 210,  258,  285,  310 and 329.  No. 153 was written after hearing Jack Carroll speak of the different offerings.  No.  210 was written to help a young couple who had newly professed.  She wrote No. 258 when she heard she was to go to the States.  Originally, the hymn began, "I've opened my mouth to Jesus." The thought of the years passing prompted No. 310;  and 329 was written at the suggestion of a sister worker who asked for a hymn on "Going On."

Author Glenn Smith: Born in 1880, Glenn labored in the Eastern USA before going to South America to preach, where "it was very difficult because Spanish families just don't invite strangers into their homes, especially men and if some dared to do so, they would be expected to leave by or before time for the husband to leave for work." Glenn married a nurse named Helen, after she professed in their meetings, and as a married couple, they were accepted in the homes more readily than single men or women. His overseers were not pleased with the marriage and a report was put out that Glenn had left the group, so naturally, the friends withdrew their financial support. Glenn and Helen were citizens of South America and became associated with the Assemblies of God church. Glenn became ill and died in S.A. (3-19-90 Dorothy Doner Letter Letter to Mary Ann Schoeff). He wrote nine Hymns to his own music; Nos. 104, 212, 214, 227, 228, 229, 230 and 251 (in 1951 Edition). One account reports that Glenn returned to meetings before he died.

Author Alexander (Sandy) Scott (1886-1968) was a Scotsman who preached with his wife Eva. Per the Hymn author list, "Sandy went into the work in 1909 and labored in Scotland, U.S.A., Italy, Spain and Canada." There is an old printed text only hymnbook of 184 of his hymns and 4 poems. He wrote Nos. 43, 52, 56, 57, 81, 110, 159, 164, 172, 291, 297, 302, 335, 343, 344, 398, 406, 410 (in the 1987 edition of Hymns Old & New).

Author John Martin: There is an old printed Leaflet of his hymns. The tunes in the Leaflet are tied to an edition of Hymns Old and New earlier than 1951. (Probably the 1935 hymnbook, since it is the only hymnbook that contains numbers as high as those used in John Martin's hymns.)

1951 Edition Hymns by John Martin:
149 O Blessed Lord, We Plead Again... (No. 4 Hymns of John Martin)
328 O Blessed Lord, the night, the night is falling (tune: Londonderry Air)
(No. 54 Hymns of John Martin)

1987 Editions Hymns by John Martin:
037 Nothing Matters...But Salvation was the last hymn John Martin wrote.
(No. 149 Hymns of John Martin)
180 O Blessed Lord
251 O Don't Be Led Captive

The late Howard Mooney, Overseer of Oregon for many years, used to tell a story about a hymn that was printed in one of the Leaflets, and was also No. 344 in the 1935 hymnbook.  "In the Hymnbook issued before the one we have now there was a song that was supposed to have been composed by an Irish singer, who came to this Country, thinking that she was finding Utopia and found herself in amongst brute beasts. When that young woman was breathing her last breath on a premature death bed, with her character wrecked and her life ruined, she composed these words:

Eternity's Awakening

"I stand on the shores of an unknown land,
On the brink of Eternity,
At last! At last! I can understand the worth of reality;
Earth promis'd me much! but my end is this; I die unheeded, unknown,
I drank with the many the cup of bliss But the dregs I drink alone.

Too late! Too late! No strong loving hand Can I see outstretch'd for me,
Alone on an unknown shore I stand, On the brink of Eternity.

The love that so many professed for me is gone when I need it most,
The joys of earth that were lavished free Full many a tear have cost;
And now as I touch eternity's brow, Life reads with a meaning new,
The real separates from the unreal now, The false joys from the true."

Hymns Written by Edward Cooney

Out of the 412 hymns contained in the 1987 Edition of Hymns Old and New, there are only FOUR (4) hymns WITHOUT an author's name listed by them in the list titled "Hymns Old and New Authors" (1987 Edition). (Click here to view this list) ALL four (4) of these hymns were written by the co-founder Edward Cooney, who was excommunicated in 1928.

QUESTION: Is this omission significant?

According to Patricia Robert's book Selected Letters, Hymns and Poems of Edward Cooney 1867-1960, the following hymns were written by Edward Cooney:

Hymns Old & New

As We Gather
Lord We Are Met Together
Our God, Our Father
Here We Come
Jesus Died for Sinners

No. 10 was left out of the 1987 edition. In addition, Ed Cooney wrote two other hymns, "Except ye eat my flesh" and "Christ with Joy My Heart is Thrilling."  Edward Cooney's name has been left out of most of the editions of Hymns Old & New. The initials "E. C." appeared in some of the old hymnbooks, but not his full name. A supporter of Ed Cooney, the late Fred Wood wrote: "We were visiting Davy Hanson recently and came across an account of all the writers and composers of music for the hymnbook, Hymns Old and New. Many names were mentioned, but not a word about Edward, some of whose hymns are still sung." [Selected Letters of Fred Wood 1890-1986, Page 16, edited by Patricia Roberts]

Dr. Patricia Roberts told the author that Ken Paginton contacted her for permission to reprint Edward Cooney's hymns in the latest version of Hymns Old and New. The present day followers of Cooney sing from the 1951 edition at their meetings. Dr. Roberts points out a misprint in the 1951 Edition, Verse 4 of Edward Cooney's hymn, "Jesus died for sinners." It should read, "Christ for YOU atonement" and not "Christ for YOUR atonement."

R. L. Allan & Son, Publisher of Hymns Old and New, forwarded a request for information about the author of these four hymns to brother worker, Ken Paginton, who was at the time laboring in Madagascar (deceased 1/12/97). Ken Paginton replied by letter that he dealt with any copyright matters concerning Hymns Old & New, and asked for what purpose this information was sought. (Click here to read his letters)

On the other hand, Patricia Roberts contacted R. L. Allan for copyright permission to print Edward Cooney's hymns in her book. R. L. Allan passed her request on to Ken Paginton, who wrote back saying, "As you know, they were written by Edward Cooney and therefore, we can't morally stop you." Dr. Roberts thanked him and sent him a copy of her book. When he later visited her, she asked what he thought of her book. "It was written from Cooney's perspective," was the reply. While their visit passed pleasantly, he admitted to a gulf existing between them.

Ken Paginton wrote the author: "With regard to the four hymns - 179, 182, 183, and 184, these were written by E. Cooney in the early part of this century. I know that they are included in Dr. Robert's book, as she wrote to me with regard to permission before publishing." Concerning the omission of Cooney's name in the Hymn Author booklet, Ken Paginton stated in a letter dated February 24, 1992"...for various private reasons, the name is not given for those four hymns, and this should be respected."

However, the booklet titled "Hymns Old and New Authors" (1987 Edition) which gives personal details about the hymn authors, also maintains:

"In the preparation of this hymn study, accuracy was attempted using all information presently available to us...Any who would like more copies, please contact: Miss Joyce Major at 4240 Folker St. B-102, Anchorage, Alaska 99508."

Click Here to view Hymn Author List omitting Cooney's name and the above statement.

2004 August Revised Edition of Hymns Old and New Concordance - Theme & Subject Index - Authors; printed in Canada. Order books from Al Habicht c/o 734 First Avenue North, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada S7K 1Y1; email:

This revised edition gives credit to Edward Cooney for Hymns 179, 182, 183 and 184 that he wrote.  They all give the author's name as:  "Edward Cooney (1867-1960); The author was an independent evangelist."  It's notable that Edward's name is not in capital letters, as there is a note at the start that says "Names of workers and friends are in capital letters." So while at least this edition recognizes his name and authorship, whoever was responsible for the revising still wished to distance Cooney's name from the 2x2s. The same statement printed in previous editions regarding accuracy is present at the end. Also says 2006 Edition at end. This is bound in with the 2004 edition of the concordance.

The Hymns Old and New Website shows that each edition has included an increasing percentage of hymns written by members of the fellowship:

Go Preachers Hymn Book      11%
1917 Hymns Old and New     35%  
1919 Hymns Old and New     45%
1928 Hymns Old and New     59%
1935 Hymns Old and New     64%
1951 Hymns Old and New     64%
1987 Hymns Old and New     74%

The Oldest Hymn Authors

According to "Review of Hymns" for the 1951 Edition of Hymns Old & New, the six hymn authors who entered the work the earliest are:

Hymn Authors to go in the Work the Earliest (Workers)

Entered Work
Worker/Author's Name
1951 Hymn Nos.
1900 John Sullivan 13
1900 Thomas M. Turner 202, 236, 265
1902 Sam Jones too numerous to list
1903 William Carroll 140, 142
1903 William Weir 152
1905 James Jardine too numerous to list

The birthday and birth location of each hymn author is listed in the booklet titled "Hymns Old and New - Authors." Of the OLDEST 2x2 HYMN AUTHORS listed, it is interesting that five (5) of these six (6) hymn authors were from Ireland or Scotland. They are:

Oldest Hymn Authors - 2x2s

Birth Year
Author's Name
Birth Country
1951 Hymn Nos.
1869 Charles Hultgren Norway 20
1872 James Patrick Scotland 148
1873 Adam Hutchison Scotland 199, 237, 330
1874 John Sullivan Ireland 13
1875 Robert Skerritt Ireland 80
1876 John Martin Ireland 149, 328

In Hymns Old & New, the five (5) OLDEST hymn authors who were Outsiders are:

Oldest Hymn Authors - Outsiders


Hymn No.

1951/1987 Ed

Hymn Title
1091-1153 St. Bernard of Clairvaux 29/13 Jesus the Very Thought of Thee
1607-1676 Paul Gerhardt 209/ A Homeless Stranger
  " 180/351 God in Heaven Hath a Treasure
1674-1748 Isaac Watts 15/6 When I Survey
1697-1769 Gerhard Tersteegen 211/247 How Sweet It Is
  " 260/304 Come Brothers On
  " 261/305 Lo, We Can Tread
  " 8/95 God Calling Yet
  " 206/263 Thou Sweet Beloved Will
1789-1871 Charlotte Elliott 100/158 Just As I Am

What do all the Following Hymns Have in Common??

How many meetings were started with:
319 In the name of Jesus gathering
144 Master Speak, Thy Servant Heareth
145 Speak Lord in Thy Stillness
124 Low at Thy Throne of Grace, We humbly bow
187 Search me O God
253 Bread Thou the Bread of Life
256 How precious is the Word of God

How often we chose and sang these favorite hymns in meetings:
48 Have Thine Own Way Lord
88 I need Thee Every Hour
169 Counted In
178 Precious Thought my Father knoweth
180 God in Heaven Hath a Treasure
209 A Homeless Stranger
282 There is No Gain But by a Loss
289 Alone with God, The world forbidden
293 If all things were mine but not the Savior

Before the emblems were passed in Sunday Morning Meetings, how often we sang:
15 When I survey the Wondrous Cross
172 Cleansing for me
8 Wash Me O Lamb of God

How often Sunday morning meetings were closed with:
240 Thou Thinkest Lord of Me
298 Give of our Best to the Master
314 Abide in Him
261 Lo We Can Tread Rejoicing

How often we sang in gospel meetings:
1 Tell Me the Story of Jesus
35 Was it For Me?
40 Satisfied
113 I have made my choice forever
166 Oh, What Will You Do with Jesus?

How many gospel meetings were tested with:
How many of us professed to:

101 Just as I am,
107 Come to Jesus
108 So Near to the Kingdom
109 Still Undecided
112 Out of Christ Without a Savior
83 Nearer Still Nearer

How many were baptized to this hymn?
54 From Every Stain Made Free

What was the sweet refrain sung at many funerals of our friends?
308 Only Remembered

Q: What do ALL these hymns have in common???

* * * * * * *

A: They were ALL written by Outsiders!!

Facts About the Hymn Authors - Outsiders
Hymn Authors Who Were NOT 2x2s

The stories behind the hymns written by Outsiders are no less moving and intense than those written by Insiders. Out of tragic circumstances, some of our best-loved hymns were born. The details surrounding the private struggles and personal triumphs experienced by men and women who wrote hymns add significance to their already meaningful words. For those interested in learning how hymns came to be written, there are several books containing hymn stories. Some are listed below.

:  King David (B.C.).  There are 5-6 hymns attributed to King David on the Hymn Author List.  Where are any hymns written in the years between those by David (B.C.) and the Catholic monk below (A.D.)?

THE OLDEST HYMN AUTHOR: St. Bernard of Clairvaux: 1090-1153
Author of:
"Jesus The Very Thought of Thee"
Hymn No. 29/13 (1951 & 1987 Editions respectively)
"Jesus, Thou Joy of Loving Hearts"
Hymn No. 204 (1951 Edition/not in 1987)

This author was a Catholic monk, who lived in the eleventh century and was later canonized by the Pope with the title of "SAINT." In spite of the 2x2s very negative views of the Catholics and Catholicism, these hymns written by a Catholic Saint were hand-picked by the workers to be included in the 2x2 hymnbooks. For years the 2x2s have been singing these lovely hymns of praise written by a HIGHLY revered Catholic monk/saint, who even has a Catholic feast day in his honor--August 20--the day of his death. Of course, the 2x2 hymn author lists do not use the title "Saint" before his name. 

From a pamphlet picked up in the Saint Bernard of Clairvaux Church in Tulsa, Oklahoma:

"Who was Saint Bernard of Clairvaux?"
“He was born in 1090 near Dijon, France and entered the order of Cistercian monks at the age of 21. Endowed with a warm personality and sharp intellect, he was named as head of a new monastic foundation. Because of his success, his monastery became known as the Valley of Light…or Clairvaux. His strict Cistercian discipline gave rise to the Trappist community. Because of serious division in the Church, Bernard traveled across Europe trying to restore peace and unity. A mystic and theologian, he composed numerous treatises which influenced the Church’s thinking for centuries. He is now best remembered for his poetic works, including the prayer known s the ‘Memorare’ and the hymn ‘Jesu Dulcis Memoria.’ He died on August 20, 1153, and was canonized by Pope Alexander III in 1174. In 1830, he was designated a Doctor of the Church. He lived before the rise of the scholastic theologians, such as Thomas Aquinas, and because his teaching is still in the tradition of men like Ambrose and Augustine, he is often called the last of the Fathers of the Church. His feast is observed on August 20.”

Incidentally, in September, 1999, a search using Alta Vista for "Bernard of Clairv*" turned up 1,949 entries!! Not a few churches are named after him.

Sermons on Loving God by St. Bernard of Clairvaux:

SECOND OLDEST HYMN AUTHOR: Paul Gerhardt: 1607 - 1676

Author of:
"A Homeless Stranger"
Hymn No. 209/not in 1987
"God in Heaven Hath a Treasure"
Hymn No 180/351

This author wrote a total of 123 hymns, many of which are still well known and beloved throughout the world. Paul Gerhardt is called the "sweet singer of Lutheranism." Together with Johann Crüger, the cantor and organist at St. Nicholas Church in Berlin, he produced some of the greatest Lutheran chorales. He was born on March 12, 1607, in Gräfenhaim, near Wittenberg, Germany. He trained to be a Lutheran pastor at Wittenberg, where Martin Luther had taught a century before. In 1651, he was ordained to serve the Lutheran congregation in Wittenwalde, southeast of Berlin. He married Anna Maria Barthold.

Paul Gerhardt As a Hymn Writer and His Influence on English Hymnody
By Theodore Brown Hewitt
ISBN: 0570013135 (out of print)

THIRD OLDEST HYMN AUTHOR: Isaac Watts: 1674-1748

Author of:
"When I Survey" Hymn No. 15/6 (1951 & 1987 Editions respectively)
"In All My Vast Concerns"
Hymn No. 194/378 (1951 & 1987 Editions respectively)
"O Bless the Lord, my Soul"
Hymn No. 163/238 (1951 & 1987 Editions respectively)

Called the "Father of English Hymnody," in his lifetime, Watts wrote over 600 hymns. Besides his hymns, Watts published 52 other works, including a book on logic used by universities, books on grammar, pedagogy, ethics, psychology, astronomy, geography, 3 volumes of sermons and 29 treatises on theology. Isaac Watts was born July 27, 1674, at Southampton, England, the eldest of nine children. He was a very intelligent child who learned to read early. He began learning Latin at age four and went on to learn Greek, Hebrew, and French as well. From an early age Isaac had a gift with rhyming words, and often his conversation even rhymed.

Watts complained at age 16, that when allowed only psalms to sing, the faithful could not even sing about their Lord, Christ Jesus. His father invited him to see what he could do about it; the result was Watts' first hymn, "Behold the glories of the Lamb.” Watts left the Academy at age 20 and spent two years at home, during which time he wrote the bulk of his Hymns and Spiritual Songs. They were sung from manuscripts in the Southampton Chapel. Watts is credited as having written the first English hymn which was not a direct paraphrase of Scripture.  Relying heavily on Scripture, Watts wrote metered texts based on New Testament passages that brought the Christian faith into the songs of the church. In 1707 he published his first edition of Hymns and Spiritual Songs.

Watts died on November 25, 1748, Stoke Newington, England, and was buried in Bunhill Fields Cemetery, London, England. After his death in 1748, a monument to Watts was erected in Westminster Abbey. Watts' tenderness to children can be seen reflected in his lovely Divine Songs for Children, published in 1715. In his poetic paraphrases of the Psalms, Watts adapted the Psalms for use by the Church. Benjamin Franklin first published Watts' psalm paraphrases in America in 1729.

Watts' hymns gloried in the power, wisdom, and goodness of his majestic God. During the American revivals of 1735-1739, known as The Great Awakening, George Whitefield used Watts' hymns and songs in his meetings. They were well-loved by Americans of the Revolutionary period.

The Psalms and Hymns of Isaac Watts: With All the Additional Hymns and Complete Indexes by Isaac Watts. Hardcover (June 1998) Soli Deo Gloria Pubns; ISBN: 1573580694
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See Also:

FOURTH OLDEST HYMN AUTHOR: Gerhard Tersteegen: 1697-1769

Author of: "Come Brothers On"
Hymn No. 260/304 (1951 & 1987 Editions respectively)
"How Sweet It Is"
Hymn No. 211/247 (1951 & 1987 Editions respectively)

The two most famous 18th Century German hymn writers were Gerhard Tersteegen and Joachim Neander. Gerhard Tersteegen was born on November 25, 1697, in Moers, Niederrhein, Germany, and died on April 3, 1769 in Mülheim/Ruhr, Germany. His real name was Dutch: Gerrit ter Steegen, although his name is usually shown as the Germanized “Tersteegen.”

His father abandoned his mother, and Gerhard grew up in poverty. He wanted to study theology, but could not afford an education. He studied at home reading theological books, and became an outstanding lay theologian, lay pastor, and mystic of the Protestant Pietism movement. From 1728 on, he was an itinerant preacher in the Protestant Erweckungsbewegung (“Spiritual Awakening Movement”) in the Niederrhein region, and hosted home worship and prayer meetings.

FIFTH OLDEST HYMN AUTHOR: Charlotte Elliott: 1789-1871

Author of:
"Just As I Am"
Hymn No. 100/158 (1951 & 1987 Editions respectively)

Undoubtedly, this hymn is the one most often selected when the 2x2 gospel meetings are tested for new converts. It was the hymn being sung when many 2x2s came to their feet or raised their hand to profess. This special hymn was not written by one of their own, however. It was written by Charlotte Elliott, long before the 2x2s ever existed as a group, and long before William Irvine, their founder, was even born.

The story goes that Charlotte Elliott seemed to have everything going for her as a young woman. She was gifted as a portrait artist and also as a writer of humorous verse. Then in her early thirties, she suffered a serious illness that left her weak and depressed. During her illness a noted minister, Dr. Caesar Malan of Switzerland, came to see her. Noticing her depression, he asked her if she had peace with God. She resented the question, and refused to talk about it.

A few days later she apologized to Dr. Malan, and said that she wanted to clean up some things in her life before becoming a Christian. Dr. Malan looked at her and answered, "Come just as you are." That was enough for Charlotte Elliott, and she yielded herself to the Lord that day. Fourteen years later, remembering those words spoken to her by Caesar Malan in Brighton, England, she wrote the simple hymn, "Just as I am" that has touched the hearts of millions who have also responded to Christ's invitation to come just as they are.

The following quote gives the background of the author, and is from: Stories Behind Popular Songs and Hymns, pages 171-173, by Lindsay L. Terry, Baker Book House. Available from Baker Book House Co.1-800-877-2665.


"Probably the most widely used song of consecration today is "Just As I am." It has been called the world's greatest soul-winning hymn. Countless people have been influenced by this song to give their hearts and lives to God. A complete volume could be written telling of the wonderful happenings in connection with the singing of this one song.

"Its author, Charlotte Elliott, suffered most of her life from the ills of an invalid body. Many times her weakened condition caused her great lamentation. Such was the case in 1836, when her brother, H. V. Elliott, was raising funds for St. Mary's Hall at Brighton, England, a college for the daughters of poor clergymen. She wanted to have some little part but was hindered by reason of her infirmity. As she pondered how she could help the cause, Charlotte decided to write a poem relevant to others who were physically limited. She remembered the words of a great preacher, Cesar Malan, who had talked to her fourteen years before. He had told her to come to Jesus, "just as you are," words that helped her to find Christ.

"The resulting poem was published without Charlotte's name and was handed to her one day in leaflet form by her doctor, who did not realize that she was its author. Tears streamed down her face as she read the six verses and was told that copies of this poem were being sold and the money given to St. Mary's Hall. Miss Elliott then realized that she had at last made a significant contribution to the building of the school through the medium of her words of faith and humility:

"Just as I am, without one plea,
But that Thy blood was shed for me,
And that thou bidd'st me to come to Thee,
O Lamb of God I come! I come!

Just as I am, Thou wilt receive,
Wilt welcome, pardon, cleanse, relieve,
Because Thy promise I believe,
O Lamb of God, I come! I come!"

"Only eternity will reveal the blessings heaped on other lives by this song. Charlotte Elliott probably would have shouted for joy, if she could have heard the following story...

"During a song service in a church, John B. Gough was asked by the man next to him in the pew what was to be sung. Physically, the questioner seemed a most pathetic sight--victim of a nervous disease that had left him blind and twisted in body. The poor man joined the congregation in the singing of the song, "Just As I am." As they came to the words, "Just as I am, poor, wretched, blind," the wretched creature lifted his sightless eyes to heaven and sang with his whole being. Gough later said, "I have heard the finest strains of an orchestra, a choir and a soloist this world can produce, but I had never heard music, until I heard that blind man sing 'O Lamb of God, I come, I come!'

"Reflection: "Because Thy promise I believe..." Oh, that we could take God at his word! How thoroughly cleansed is the man who lets Christ wash him with His blood. Because God is our loving, heavenly Father, He makes it as easy as possible for us to be saved. It cost Him all He had, but our part is simple--we need only reach out and He will accept us unconditionally."

NOTEABLE AUTHOR, "The Hymn Queen" Fanny Crosby: 1820 - 1905

This Author wrote 9 hymns in the 1987 edition of Hymns Old & New:

001 Tell Me The Story of Jesus by Fanny Crosby
086  Jesus is Passing This Way by Annie L. James (pseudonym of Fanny Crosby)
146 Give Me Jesus by Fanny J. Crosby
141 Close Thy Heart No More by Fanny J. Crosby
160 So Near to the Kingdom by Fanny J. Crosby
085  The Savior with Me by Lizzie Edwards (pseudonym of Fanny Crosby)
303 Close to Thee by Fanny J. Crosby
228 Moments of Blessing by Fanny J. Crosby
400 When Jesus Comes by Fanny Crosby

The American hymnwriter, Frances Jane Crosby, called Fanny, was born on March 24, 1820, in Putnam County, New York. She was blinded by an illness when she was 6 weeks old. She wrote over 8,000 hymns in her lifetime, under various names, earning her the title of "Hymn Queen." She had the gift of being able to write poems on the spur of the moment; a chance remark often providing the inspiration. Fanny Crosby passed away at the age of 95. A simple little headstone on her grave in Bridgeport, Connecticut, states the name "Aunt Fanny," and these words: 

"Blessed assurance, Jesus is mine.
Oh, what a foretaste of glory divine."

This is Fannie Crosby's most famous hymn. (Click Here to read the words and hear the music) However the 2x2s reject the concept that in this life man can have assurance of salvation, so it is understandable that they never included this hymn in Hymns Old & New. Since the author Fannie Crosby obviously believed very differently from the 2x2s, why do they reprint in their hymnbook and sing the above hymns she wrote??

See Also:
Fanny Crosby used over 200 pseudonyms. For example, she wrote:
Hymn No. 154 The Saviour With Me under the name of Lizzie Edwards
Hymn No. 026 Jesus Is Passing This Way under the name of Annie L. James


Safe in the Arms of Jesus: Biography of Fanny Crosby
by Chester Hearn, Ann Hearn
Published by Christian Literature Crusade (January 1999); ISBN: 0875086659
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This Is My Story, This Is My Song by Fanny Crosby
Published by Emerald House Group Inc.; (September 1997) ISBN: 1898787417
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Fanny Crosby: Writer of 8,000 Songs
By Sandy Dengler
Published by Moody Press
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Fanny Crosby: The Hymn Writer (Heroes of the Faith)
By Bernard Ruffin
Published by Barbour & Co.
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Fanny Crosby : Stories of Great Christians (Heroes of the Faith)
By Bernard Ruffin on Audio Cassette
Audio Cassette Published by Barbour & Co
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Great Women in American History: 24 Women of Faith and Principle
By Rebecca Price Janney
Published by Christian Publications (contains an 11 page chapter on Fanny Crosby)
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NOTEABLE AUTHOR: Called “The Prince of Scottish Hymn Writers,” Horatius Bonar, wrote more than 600 hymns.
Born: December 19, 1808, Old Broughton, Edinburgh, Scotland - Died: July 31, 1889, Edinburgh, Scotland.
After graduating from the University of Edinburgh, he was ordained in 1838, and became pastor of the North Parish, Kelso. After the “Disruption” of 1843, he joined the Free Church of Scotland. Bonar remained in Kelso for 28 years. He moved to Edinburgh to the Chalmers Memorial church where he served the rest of his life. Bonar’s works include "Hymns of Faith and Hope," 1857.

In the 1987 edition of Hymns Old & New, he wrote:



In the 1951 edition of Hymns Old & New, he wrote:
(not in 1987 ed.)

031  I was a Wandering Sheep
102  A Few More Years shall Roll
313  When the Weary, Seeking Rest


Hymns on line
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The Cyber-Hymnal


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Hymns Old & New Website

This site provides an index of Hymns Old & New, published in 1987 by R. L. Allan & Son. Previous compilations were published in 1919, 1928, 1935 and 1951.

Compilation copyright was registered in USA by Pocock & Martin in 1987 for the Christian Church in England.

The Hymns page provides a detailed index of the hymns. The Authors page provides a detailed index of the hymn authors, and translator detail is provided on the Translator page.

Concordance provides full line references for all words with 5 letters or more. Caution: large page which might take a while to load.

Sources of Hymns shows the derivation of hymns from Sacred Songs and Solos and New Hymns & Solos, compiled by Ira D Sankey and published about 1900; Redemption Songs (1000 Hymns and Choruses) published about 1900 and Songs of Victory (compiled by Andrew W Bell, published about 1900)

Bible References lists some obvious references.

Unusual old words provides a dictionary of some archaic words used in the hymns.

Books About Hymn Authors

The following books contain information about the authors and composers, as well as stories of how many of the popular hymns came to be written:

Songs of Glory: Stories of 300 Great Hymns and Gospel Songs
By William J. Reynolds
Baker Book House (January 1996); ISBN: 080105527X
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101 Hymn Stories
By Kenneth W. Osbeck,1982 Kregel Publications
ISBN: 0825434165
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101 More Hymn Stories
By Kenneth W. Osbeck, 1982, Kregel Publications.
ISBN: 0825434203
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52 Hymn Stories Dramatized
By Kenneth W. Osbeck, 1992
ISBN: 0825434289
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Amazing Grace: 366 Inspiring Hymn Stories for Daily Devotions
By Kenneth W. Osbeck, 1990; ISBN: 0825434254
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25 Most Treasured Gospel Hymn Stories
By Kenneth W. Osbeck
ISBN: 0825434300
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Amazing Grace : Illustrated Stories of Favorite Hymns
y Kenneth W. Osbeck, 1999
ISBN: 0825434335
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Singing With Understanding, Including 101 Favorite Hymn Backgrounds
By Kenneth W. Osbeck
ISBN: 0825434149
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Stories Behind Popular Songs and Hymns
By Lindsay L. Terry, Baker Book House
Available from Baker Book House Co.1-800-877-2665

Devotionals From Famous Hymn Stories
By Lindsay L. Terry, Baker Book House
Available from Baker Book House Co.1-800-877-2665

Great Christian Hymn Writers
By Jane Stuart Smith & Betty Carlson; Crossway Books, 1997
ISBN: 0891079440
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A Treasury of Hymn Stories
By Amos R. Wells 1945/1992 Baker Book House Co.
A collection of 120 hymn narratives containing concise, brief biographies of mainly gospel hymn writers. ISBN: 0801097185
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Also available from Baker Book House Co.1-800-877-2665 or

The Gospel in Hymns
By Albert Edward Bailey, 1950, Charles Scribner's Sons.
Gives theology of hymns and hymn movements, creating context for the hymns and writers lacking in anecdotal books about hymn authors.
ISBN: 0684155540
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Heritage of Hymns: An Exploration of Music and Religion, Music and Our Hymns, and the Stories of Hymns and Hymn Writers of the Restoration Movement
By Richard Clothier,1996
ISBN: 0830907378
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Ambassador Book of Great Hymn Stories
By Janet McCelland, James C. McClelland
ISBN: 0907927998
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The Hymn: A Journal of Congregational Song is published by the Hymn Society in the United States and Canada. This excellent monthly journal contains the latest research on hymn-related topics, book and hymn reviews. This Journal also has a book service which carries an excellent selection of hymnbooks, books on hymns, and historic reprints.
Order from: The Hymn Society, 2800 S. University Dr, Fort Worth, Texas 76129 U.S.A.


Survey of Christian Hymnody
By William J. Reynolds, Milburn Price 1987, Milburn Books
ISBN: 0916642321
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Catherine Winkworth: The Influence of Her Translations on English Hymnody
By Robin A. Leaver, 1978
ISBN: 0570037883
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A History of Evangelistic Hymnody
By James Sallee, 1977
ISBN: 0801081114
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A Joyful Sound: Christian Hymnody
By William Jensen Reynolds, 1978
ISBN: 0030408318
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Three Centuries of American Hymnody
By Henry W. Foote, 1968
ISBN: 0208005765
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Dictionary of Hymnology: Origin and History of Christian Hymns and Hymn writers of All Ages and Nations
By John Julian (Editor), 1985
ISBN: 0825429609
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Sing With Understanding: An Introduction to Christian Hymnology
By Harry Eskew, 1980
ISBN: 0805468099
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