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The Journal of John Long
About the Early Days
REPRESENTING THE LARGEST COLLECTION OF 2X2 HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS ON THE INTERNET
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Preserving the Truth
The Church without a Name and its Founder, William Irvine
Revised March 8, 2016
Who was JOHN LONG??
1897: February - John Long Meets Wm Irvine
The BEGINNING of the REVIVAL:
1897: August - 1st NENAGH Mission, County Tipperary, Ireland
1897: October - RATHMOLYON Mission, County Meath, Ireland
The Carroll Family
COUNTY MAP OF IRELAND
WHO WAS JOHN LONG? John Long was the man who obtained permission for William Irvine to hold a Mission in the Methodist church in Nenagh, N. Tipperary Co., Ireland in August, 1897. This was the Mission that started "The REVIVAL." In John Long's own words, he and Wm Irvine were "the two instruments used of God at the origin of that movement." John Long was right there at the start of "that movement," which was sometimes referred to as "the Go-Preachers," generated from Matthew 10:7, "As ye go, preach."
John Long is shown as entering the work in 1899 on the List of First Workers at July 1905. He wrote a Journal spanning many years which is a Primary Source of recorded history about the formation of the Go-Preacher movement, also known as the 2x2 sect. John long kept very detailed notes in his Bible, and began writing his official Journal in 1918, eleven years after he left the Go-Preacher movement, and twenty-one years after it started. He made a second copy of his original Journal and left it with a friend. After that, he made another copy, so his two sons would have copies. Both the son's copies are in the possession of his oldest son, John Long, and the Long Family do not know what became of the third copy.
John Long was born at Burntwood, Cloughjordan, County Tipperary, Ireland on September 15, 1872 to Gilbert and Ann (Turner) Long. He died July 4, 1962, age 90 years. There were eight children born into his family: Eliza Jane, 1868; Maria, 1870; John, 1872; William, 1874; Anne Ellen, 1876-77 (lived 9 months); Samuel, 1879; Anne Ellen, 1881; and Thomas, 1883. John Long attended Newtown School.
John Long's first religious instruction was by an Episcopal minister. When he was twelve years old, he began attending Sunday School and took an interest in reading the Bible. About that time he also signed the Temperance Pledge against alcoholic liquors and was a total abstainer all his life.
At sixteen, he was confirmed in the Episcopal church. In 1890, when he was eighteen, he decided for Christ at a mission held in the Methodist Church in Cloughjordan. He left the Episcopal church in 1895 and joined the Methodist.
"The great lack in Episcopalianism was that of preaching conversion, the witness of the Spirit, the present possession of Eternal life, confessing Christ with the mouth, family prayer, and liberty for laymen to preach in the churches. Because the Methodist preached those essential and vital truths, I left the Episcopal church, and joined the Methodist." (John Long's Journal Sept., 1893)
In November, 1890, when John was 18 years old, he left home and for the next four years he was a domestic servant for Rev. Leapold O’Sullivan, the Methodist Rector of Cloughjordan. John's name was on the Methodist Preacher’s Plan, and on Saturday evenings, John would preach at meetings in nearby towns and villages.
In 1896, the Faith Mission sent Wm. Irvine to preach in Co. Antrim, Northern Ireland; and in February, 1897 they sent him and another Pilgrim to pioneer the South of Ireland, where no Faith Mission workers had ever preached. Irvine "was himself at that time having a particularly severe spiritual conflict, as to his position, prospects, work, etc...They looked pretty black and discouraging all around when he met John Long." (From: Account of the Early Days by Goodhand Pattison)
1897: FEBRUARY - JOHN LONG MEETS WILLIAM IRVINE - In February, 1897, while John Long was visiting Ennis, he “first heard of William Irvine, a Faith Mission Pilgrim who had newly come to evangelize in the County Clare...Rev. Charles Cronhelm, the Methodist Minister in Kilrush, had asked Wm. Irvine to hold a Mission there." John received a letter from the Kilrush minister asking him "to go over to Kilrush for a week end, as he had two Faith Mission Evangelists having meetings and he would like me to meet with them. Unto that invitation I responded and went and spent the week end in the fellowship of William Irvine" (John Long's Journal, February 1897).
Some of the friends often facilitate the workers by making the arrangements for a suitable place for the workers to hold a mission. They make the arrangements for the preachers.
That's what John Long did in 1897 at Nenagh...he arranged for a place for Irvine to preach. This doesn't make John Long a founder or "first" at all. If it did, then to be consistent, it would make the friends who do the same today into preachers/workers.
It didn't seem to make any difference that John Long was a Methodist Colporteur and Wm. Irvine was a Faith Mission Pilgrim: the two men worked together with the same goal of saving souls. As Goodhand Pattison pointed out:
July, 1897 found Wm Irvine:
Goodhand Pattison described this incident:
The book Heresies Exposed states: "Mr. John Long has written us that he was the man who obtained for William Irvine the first opening for a mission in Nenagh, August, 1897...That William Irvine is the name of the original leader of the Go-Preachers...He declares that the movement dates from 1897." (Heresies Exposed 3rd Edition 1921, Sept. 1980 printing by W. C. Irvine, Footnote, p 73). [NOTE: W. C. Irvine is no relation to Wm. Irvine.] John Long wrote the Editor in 1932, when this book first came to his attention. It would be after that date that the above notation was added as a footnote to the next printing of Heresies Exposed. Wm Irvine wrote:
Alfred Trotter wrote his sister Edith concerning John Long: "He it was who fired the first shot in a campaign which was destined to re-echo around the world. And he was present on many momentous occasions, went out in the work and sacrificed much in the days of his youth." (Account by Alfred Trotter, July 28, 1976). "The first shot" was when John Long used his influence to get " permission from...the Methodist Minister to have the use of Nenagh Methodist Church.”
This information about John Long will suffice to introduce him to the Reader. Further details will be in the next several chapters, for John figured prominently in the years when the Go-Preachers were first getting started--up until 1907, when he was excommunicated.
According to John Long and Wm Irvine
1897, AUGUST 15 - SEPTEMBER 16 NENAGH MISSION, CO. TIPPERARY: Beginning in August, 1897, Wm. Irvine held a very successful six week mission in Nenagh, resulting in "upwards of thirty persons got converted” and “most of them afterwards gave up all that they had to follow Jesus.” Irvine wrote: "After six or seven months there, I got to where the Carrolls were in Nenagh; and there BEGAN the work that has spread so far." Irvine also wrote that it was in Nenagh where he "got the Seal of God." (Irvine's Letter to Dunbars, October 13, 1920)
According to John Long's Journal, William Irvine and Fred Tapp went to Nenagh, "where THE REVIVAL BEGAN..." However, Tapp's name was not listed with Irvine on the Faith Mission Location of Workers holding a mission in Nenagh beginning August 15...
Frances Carroll, affectionately called Fannie, was a younger sister of Bill, Jack and May Carroll. She stated at the October 1964 Santee, California Convention: "...we heard of some Gospel meetings being held in the little town of Nenagh in the County of Tipperary. My brother, Jack, was in business there...My sister May was there, too..."Jack Carroll went to Irvine's meeting because:
G. Pattison also wrote about the success of the Nenagh mission, in which both Jack and May Carroll professed, and along with about 40 others, who became Faith Mission Prayer Union members:
Jack (age 19) and May (age 17) Carroll were both working for their Uncle Pat
Carroll in Nenagh at this time. It is possible Uncle Pat's business was a grocery store. The April 24, 1897 Nenagh News carried an advertisement from Carroll's Select Family Grocery at 47 Castle Street in Nenagh. View 1895 photo of Castle Street, Nenagh. Hover mouse over the far right edge and see the number "47" which appears on both sides of "Carroll." Currently this building is/was "Flynn's Bistro." View a street view photo.
While John Long was physically present at the Nenagh Revival Mission, he doesn't directly state or claim that he preached alongside Wm. Irvine at the Nenagh or the mission that followed at Rathmolyon. Faith Mission records do not show a co-worker with Irvine at either of the first two Nenagh Missions nor the Rathmolyon Mission held in 1897 (Bright Words Sept. 1897, p215). On the other hand, concerning the meetings Irvine held at Borrisokane and Cloughjordan in January, 1898, John wrote that "in both of them, I was asked to speak."
1897, OCTOBER 10-31 - RATHMOLYON MISSION, CO. MEATH, IRELAND - THE SECOND REVIVAL MISSION: From Nenagh, William Irvine relocated to Rathmolyon in County Meath, about 25 miles Northwest of Dublin, Ireland, and over 100 miles East of Nenagh. There he held meetings for the Faith Mission for three weeks, from October 10 to 31, and “forty persons got converted.” (Bright Words November, 1897). As far as we know, John Long was not present at this mission.
"...from Nenagh's first visit, William [Irvine] went to Rathmolyon through the Carroll's introduction, where...he had another very successful mission, getting hold of nearly all the best type of character in the place, including the Gills, Carrolls, Hastings, Winters and others, and from there back to Nenagh a second time, after which he booked for here." ["here" is Cloughjordan, home of G. Pattison] (G. Pattison in Account of the Early Days).
The Faith Mission periodical, Bright Words Dec., 1897 "Location of Pilgrims," stated Wm. Irvine held missions in Ireland in Rathmolyon from October 10 thru 31, 1897.
Fannie Carroll was 14 when she professed in Irvine's Rathmolyon mission. She said: "The meetings only lasted for three weeks, but 14 workers went out of that mission. Some have gone on to their reward. A very few did not continue...Willie Gill...was the first from the mission we had professed in to go into the Lord’s harvest field." (October 1964 Santee, California Convention). Willie Gill is shown as entering the work in 1900 on the 1905 Workers List.
Garrett Hughes (deceased American Overseer) mother was Mary Ann (Gill) Hughes, the sister of Willie Gill. Garrett reported a similar account of what he referred to as "the beginning" at the October 6, 1987, funeral service for Erling Omdal in Eagle Bend, MN: "Ninety years ago, a letter came from Ireland. We heard about those with no home, no name, etc. Forty people made their choice. Sixteen went out in the work - that was the beginning...There is not a country not open to the gospel now. It is the most marvelous thing ever to happen." [NOTE: 1987 minus 90 years = 1897, the year of the Rathmolyon Mission.]
Jack Jackson stated at Willie Gill's funeral at West Hanney, England, on June 5, 1951, that by his calculations, it was 53 years and 8 months since Willie and some others at Rathmolyon made their choice saying, "Lord what will Thou have me to do?" This dates back to October, 1897.
1897, NOVEMBER 1-6 NENAGH MISSION #2: Wm. Irvine returned and held a second mission in Nenagh. John Long wrote:
Nenagh Mission #2 was followed by several missions all held within a 20 mile radius of Nenagh: Roscrea, Cloughjordan, Finnoe, Borrisokane, and Templederry. Other missions held in this area were Lorrha, Portumna, Moneygall and Behamore. G. Pattison wrote: "Neither do I remember how or by whom the Lorrha or Portumna Missions were held, at which probably John and Tom Clarke, Richard Dagg, Tot Dane, the Hodgins family and others were brought in. I think there must have been meetings at Bailey's home below Portumna where Tom Turner heard the message and accepted it." (G. Pattison in Account of the Early Days).
1897: NOVEMBER - DEATH OF WILLIAM IRVINE'S MOTHER: In November of 1897, "William, at this time, was called back to Scotland owing to the illness or death of his mother..." according to G. Pattison. Earlier in March of 1897, Irvine “went back to Queenzieburn, Kilsyth, to see his sick mother, who at that time gave herself to Jesus." Then in November, "William Irvine crossed to Scotland, just in time to see his mother before her death" (John Long's Journal Nov. 1897).
1897, DECEMBER - CLOUGHJORDAN MISSION, CO. TIPPERARY: In December, 1897, John Long wrote: "Pastor Whittaker started a mission in Cloughjordan to prepare the way for the coming of William Irvine to that needy town; I left Roscrea and went to help there…" (John Long's Journal Dec, 1897). "The mission closed accordingly, after about 10 days in all, during which time several persons had professed decision to serve the Lord" according to G. Pattison.
Cloughjordan was the hometown of John Long and Goodhand Pattison. John wrote: "During his [Wm. Irvine's] stay in Cloughjordan, I invited him out to our home in Burntwood, for a cup of tea, and the humble and loving way by which he dealt with my brothers and sisters sowed the seed, and prepared the way for their conversion which happened within one year afterwards." (John Long's Journal, Dec. 1897)
There is more about John Long in Chapter 20
THE CARROLL FAMILY of RATHMOLYON:
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