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The Journal of John Long
About the Early Days
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1893 - 1965
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Preserving the Truth
The Church without a Name and its Founder, William Irvine

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Chapter 6
Revised March 8, 2016

1897
Who Was John Long?
The Beginning of the Revival - The FIRST Missions



Who was JOHN LONG??
1897: February - John Long Meets Wm Irvine

The BEGINNING of the REVIVAL:

1897: August - 1st NENAGH Mission, County Tipperary, Ireland
1897: October - RATHMOLYON Mission, County Meath, Ireland
The Carroll Family

COUNTY MAP OF IRELAND

WHO WAS JOHN LONG?  John Long was the man who obtained permission for William Irvine to hold a Mission in the Methodist church in Nenagh, N. Tipperary Co., Ireland in August, 1897.  This was the Mission that started "The REVIVAL."  In John Long's own words, he and Wm Irvine were "the two instruments used of God at the origin of that movement." John Long was right there at the start of "that movement," which was sometimes referred to as "the Go-Preachers," generated from Matthew 10:7, "As ye go, preach."   

John Long is shown as entering the work in 1899 on the List of First Workers at July 1905.  He wrote a Journal spanning many years which is a Primary Source of recorded history about the formation of the Go-Preacher movement, also known as the 2x2 sect.  John long kept very detailed notes in his Bible, and began writing his official Journal in 1918, eleven years after he left the Go-Preacher movement, and twenty-one years after it started. He made a second copy of  his original Journal and left it with a friend. After that, he made another copy, so his two sons would have copies. Both the son's copies are in the possession of his oldest son, John Long, and the Long Family do not know what became of the third copy. 

John Long was born at Burntwood, Cloughjordan, County Tipperary, Ireland on September 15, 1872 to Gilbert and Ann (Turner) Long. He died July 4, 1962, age 90 years. There were eight children born into his family: Eliza Jane, 1868; Maria, 1870; John, 1872; William, 1874; Anne Ellen, 1876-77 (lived 9 months); Samuel, 1879; Anne Ellen, 1881; and Thomas, 1883. John Long attended Newtown School. 

John Long's first religious instruction was by an Episcopal minister. When he was twelve years old, he began attending Sunday School and took an interest in reading the Bible. About that time he also signed the Temperance Pledge against alcoholic liquors and was a total abstainer all his life.

At sixteen, he was confirmed in the Episcopal church. In 1890, when he was eighteen, he decided for Christ at a mission held in the Methodist Church in Cloughjordan.  He left the Episcopal church in 1895 and joined the Methodist.

"The great lack in Episcopalianism was that of preaching conversion, the witness of the Spirit, the present possession of Eternal life, confessing Christ with the mouth, family prayer, and liberty for laymen to preach in the churches. Because the Methodist preached those essential and vital truths, I left the Episcopal church, and joined the Methodist." (John Long's Journal Sept., 1893)

In November, 1890, when John was 18 years old, he left home and for the next four years he was a domestic servant for Rev. Leapold O’Sullivan, the Methodist Rector of Cloughjordan. John's name was on the Methodist Preacher’s Plan, and on Saturday evenings, John would preach at meetings in nearby towns and villages.

In 1895, a few days before he was 23 years old, John Long was appointed to be a Methodist Colporteur. It was the only branch of mission work open to him at the time. At that time, there were no Bibles in most Roman Catholic homes, book stores or libraries. John had been a Methodist Colporteur for nearly four years when he resigned in November, 1899 (John Long's Journal November, 1899).  Christian Protestants:

“...tried through the agency of the Colportage work to place the Scriptures in the hands of all who desired to have them. The Colportage work was really a mission work. It consisted in selling the Scriptures and other Christian books to all denominations; also personal conversations with the people about their souls salvation, together with giving away tracts and reading and praying in the homes, and occasionally holding Gospel meetings.” (John Long's Journal April, 1895)  He lived on "...a salary of one pound a week; it took ten shillings a week for lodging besides travelling expenses, and clothing, and a tenth to the Lord, and postage, etc., so as that a colporteur had barely maintenance.” 


In 1896, the Faith Mission sent Wm. Irvine to preach in Co. Antrim, Northern Ireland; and in February, 1897 they sent him and another Pilgrim to pioneer the South of Ireland, where no Faith Mission workers had ever preached.  Irvine "was himself at that time having a particularly severe spiritual conflict, as to his position, prospects, work, etc...They looked pretty black and discouraging all around when he met John Long." (From: Account of the Early Days by Goodhand Pattison)

1897: FEBRUARY - JOHN LONG MEETS WILLIAM IRVINE - In February, 1897, while John Long was visiting Ennis, he “first heard of William Irvine, a Faith Mission Pilgrim who had newly come to evangelize in the County Clare...Rev. Charles Cronhelm, the Methodist Minister in Kilrush, had asked Wm. Irvine to hold a Mission there."  John received a letter from the Kilrush minister asking him "to go over to Kilrush for a week end, as he had two Faith Mission Evangelists having meetings and he would like me to meet with them.  Unto that invitation I responded and went and spent the week end in the fellowship of William Irvine" (John Long's Journal, February 1897).

John wrote: "I first met William Irvine...in the Methodist Church, Kilrush, County Clare, where he was having a mission. I was greatly blessed under his ministry and fellowship, and I used influence to get him openings which resulted in his holding a mission in the Methodist Church, Nenagh, County Tipperary, where a revival began in August, 1897. That revival was the origin of the Go Preacher fellowship. Whole households got converted. including Roman Catholics. It was opposed by the majority of the clergy and churches, yet defended by others..." (Life & Ministry of Edward Cooney by Patricia Roberts p12-13)

Some of the friends often facilitate the workers by making the arrangements for a suitable place for the workers to hold a mission. They make the arrangements for the preachers. That's what John Long did in 1897 at Nenagh...he arranged for a place for Irvine to preach. This doesn't make John Long a founder or "first" at all. If it did, then to be consistent, it would make the friends who do the same today into preachers/workers.

Later in June of that year, John Long wrote that he was sailing "down to river Shannon for Kilkee...on board the ship, I again met with William Irvine on his return journey from Scotland" (John Long's Journal, June 1897). Not long afterwards, John went to Tarbert, Co. Kerry and lodged for two weeks in the same house as William Irvine and Fred Tapp. Both Irvine and Tapp were Pilgrim workers with Faith Mission.

At times, John Long used his Methodist connections to obtain openings for missions.  He was usually a "fellowhelper" to the preacher in these missions. John stated, "It was a great privilege for me to get the benefit of those meetings; and to be a fellowhelper in pointing anxious souls to Christ"  (John Long's Journal, March 1898).

John Long designated Irvine as "the Evangelist", making it seem that Irvine was the main, and perhaps the only, speaker during those early missions.

"He (Wm Irvine) had announced for a Magic Lantern address…Some Romans were in the meeting and the Evangelist spoke with great vehemence, love and power;" (John Long’s Journal, February, 1897)

"The humility, love, self denial, compassion, humour, etc. of the Evangelist, (Wm Irvine) also his complete abandonment to God won the affections of all who came in contact with him." (John Long’s Journal, September , 1897)

 "A good deal of opposition arose at that time because William Irvine spoke with great authority against the unfaithfulness of the clergy…The strain of continuous ministry; also the care and charge of young converts affected much the physical health of the Evangelist." (John Long’s Journal, March, 1898)

It didn't seem to make any difference that John Long was a Methodist Colporteur and Wm. Irvine was a Faith Mission Pilgrim: the two men worked together with the same goal of saving souls.  As Goodhand Pattison pointed out:

"Meanwhile, John [Long] held on in increasingly close association with William Irvine, as of course, in his particular calling one locality was nearly the same as another and in many ways they were useful to each other, and undoubtedly thought a lot about each other. I believe that in the Templederry Mission... and probably some others...John was William Irvine's sole companion" (Account of the Early Days by Goodhand Pattison).


July, 1897 found Wm Irvine:

"...very happy, but at times repining over the Spiritual laxity of the churches; and was spending much time in prayer for a revival…He [Wm Irvine] was out of an opening, and one day when he was praying, it was revealed to me [John Long] by the Holy Spirit, to write to Goodhand Pattison, the Cloughjordan Methodist Steward, about an opening for a mission. That letter resulted in him getting permission from...the Methodist Minister to have the use of Nenagh Methodist Church.” (John Long's Journal July, 1897)

Goodhand Pattison described this incident: 

"It would probably be in the winter of 1897 that I got a letter from John Long, who was then employed as a Colporteur in Limerick District in Methodism...He [John Long] said, 'There's a man here, an Evangelist, who would cause a stir in Cloughjordan if you ask him along,' or some such words...we had not much to lose, and at least the possibility of gain by the incoming of a red-hot evangelist, even if a bit off orthodox lines.' "

I believe I [Goodhand Pattison] was treasurer...and the Superintendent Minister Secretary. We paid our Colporteurs 1 pound per week all told, and I think some, or all, profits on sales, and they to find their own keep and travel expenses, etc.; not too fat a living I would say; the main idea being to get the scriptures, either altogether or in portions, as well as other religious books etc., scattered among the people; to get talking with them in their homes, and otherwise try to help them spiritually....(G. Pattison in Account of the Early Days)

The book Heresies Exposed states: "Mr. John Long has written us that he was the man who obtained for William Irvine the first opening for a mission in Nenagh, August, 1897...That William Irvine is the name of the original leader of the Go-Preachers...He declares that the movement dates from 1897." (Heresies Exposed 3rd Edition 1921, Sept. 1980 printing by W. C. Irvine, Footnote, p 73). [NOTE: W. C. Irvine is no relation to Wm. Irvine.] John Long wrote the Editor in 1932, when this book first came to his attention. It would be after that date that the above notation was added as a footnote to the next printing of Heresies Exposed. Wm Irvine wrote:

"In November 1896, I was sent to the West of Ireland ...After six or seven months there, I got to where the Carrolls were in Nenagh; and there began the work that has spread so far...In October, 1896 I was working a mission quite near where the Sinn Feins are now getting more than they bargained for, in the burning of their town on October 3, 1920...the day I started the mission there that stirred the whole of that country for years to come, as I did in Southwest Ireland and finally all over Ireland. " (Ivrine's Letter to Dunbars, October 13, 1920 ) (NOTE: It is the Author's opinion that the year in this letter should probably read 1897--rather than 1896)

Alfred Trotter wrote his sister Edith concerning John Long:  "He it was who fired the first shot in a campaign which was destined to re-echo around the world. And he was present on many momentous occasions, went out in the work and sacrificed much in the days of his youth." (Account by Alfred Trotter, July 28, 1976).  "The first shot" was when John Long used his influence to get " permission from...the Methodist Minister to have the use of Nenagh Methodist Church.” 

This information about John Long will suffice to introduce him to the Reader. Further details will be in the next several chapters, for John figured prominently in the years when the Go-Preachers were first getting started--up until 1907, when he was excommunicated.


According to John Long and Wm Irvine
THE REVIVAL BEGAN in August, 1897 at the Nenagh, Ireland


This Mission came to be viewed by many as
THE BEGINNING of  the Go-Preacher Movement.


1897, AUGUST 15 - SEPTEMBER 16  NENAGH MISSION, CO. TIPPERARY:  Beginning in August, 1897, Wm. Irvine held a very successful six week mission in Nenagh, resulting in "upwards of thirty persons got converted” and “most of them afterwards gave up all that they had to follow Jesus.” Irvine wrote: "After six or seven months there, I got to where the Carrolls were in Nenagh; and there BEGAN the work that has spread so far."  Irvine also wrote that it was in Nenagh where he "got the Seal of God." (Irvine's Letter to Dunbars, October 13, 1920)

According to John Long's Journal, William Irvine and Fred Tapp went to Nenagh, "where THE REVIVAL BEGAN..."  However, Tapp's name was not listed with Irvine on the Faith Mission Location of Workers holding a mission in Nenagh beginning August 15...

"...in a town which was mostly a Roman population, under very unfavourable circumstances; owing to bad attendances, the Methodist Church was closed, as the Protestants in that town were few in number. At his [Wm Irvine’s] first meeting only five persons attended; but at the closing meeting, there were one hundred present...The Protestant School Mistress, Sister Oakley, was the first to get saved; altogether upwards of thirty persons of position and note got converted; most of them afterwards gave up all that they had to follow Jesus...At the mission held in Nenagh, a young man named Jack Carroll, also his sister May Carroll, got converted; they had a brother, Bill Carroll, who was a steward at Captain Fowlers, Rathmolyon, County Meath." (John Long's Journal, August 1897)

Frances Carroll, affectionately called Fannie, was a younger sister of Bill, Jack and May Carroll. She stated at the October 1964 Santee, California Convention: "...we heard of some Gospel meetings being held in the little town of Nenagh in the County of Tipperary. My brother, Jack, was in business there...My sister May was there, too..."

Jack Carroll went to Irvine's meeting because: 

"I was invited to a meeting over thirty years ago. I went, not because I had any interest, but because I promised a young fellow I would go. I said, 'This is just going to be like every other meeting. I will go and listen and that will be the end of it.' I sat in the back seat next to the door. I listened and when the meeting was over, I was the first out and down the street, but I was a different man. As I sat in that meeting that night I was careless, hopeless, Godless and Christless; didn't care if there was a God in Heaven or a devil in hell. But I felt I had run into something I had never heard of before, and I said, 'If there is a God in Heaven I am going to find Him, and will make Him my own.' I stumbled on the 'hid treasure.' Supposing I hadn't gone, hadn't listened to the 'word of the Kingdom,' where would I be? But I listened and in three weeks, I paid the price and made that 'hid treasure' my very own." ( Notes of J. Carroll, no location or date given; Matthew 13-Parable)

G. Pattison also wrote about the success of the Nenagh mission, in which both Jack and May Carroll professed, and along with about 40 others, who became Faith Mission Prayer Union members: 

"Nenagh...had some of its best type powerfully appealed to, and yielded quite a crop of decisions for God, the following being some of them: Miss Oakley, who was then a teacher belonging to the Birr Oakleys, sister of Geo. Loney and cousin of Geo. Coughlan and Mrs. Williams of the Hotel; E. Bradshaw, Allen Harkness and sister, Jack Carroll and sister May; who were then living with their Uncle Pat, an exclusive Plym [Plymouth Brethren]; Dick Norman and a young man named Fred Hughes. This last named went with William Irvine for a little while shortly afterwards and played, sang, etc., also a young man named Wallace, and I think his sister, both from Templederry side, but then in situations in Nenagh. Probably there were others of whom I cannot now remember..." (G. Pattison in Account of the Early Days)

Jack (age 19) and May (age 17) Carroll were both working for their Uncle Pat Carroll in Nenagh at this time.  It is possible Uncle Pat's business was a grocery store. The April 24, 1897 Nenagh News carried an advertisement from Carroll's Select Family Grocery at 47 Castle Street in Nenagh.  View 1895 photo of Castle Street, Nenagh.   Hover mouse over the far right edge and see the number "47" which appears on both sides of "Carroll." Currently this building is/was "Flynn's Bistro." View a street view photo.

Faith Mission's monthly publication Bright Words carried this report: 

"NENAGH - Eight month ago, before the advent of the Faith Mission, it would have been almost impossible to "unearth" more than a dozen live Christians in this town; but now, praise the Lord, we have forty-one Prayer Union members, all trusting in Jesus, together with a number of other Christians who received blessing and help during the missions held by Pilgrim Irvine, and Pilgrims Pendreigh and M'Lean. (Bright Words August, 1898)

While John Long was physically present at the Nenagh Revival Mission, he doesn't directly state or claim that he preached alongside Wm. Irvine at the Nenagh or the mission that followed at Rathmolyon.  Faith Mission records do not show a co-worker with Irvine at either of the first two Nenagh Missions nor the Rathmolyon Mission held in 1897 (Bright Words Sept. 1897, p215).  On the other hand, concerning the meetings Irvine held at Borrisokane and Cloughjordan in January, 1898, John wrote that "in both of them, I was asked to speak."

NOTE: The author holds the view that the 1897 mission at Nenagh was The Beginning of the 2x2 church, as Wm. Irvine and John Long did.


1897, OCTOBER 10-31 - RATHMOLYON MISSION, CO. MEATH, IRELAND - THE SECOND REVIVAL MISSION:  From Nenagh, William Irvine relocated to Rathmolyon in County Meath, about 25 miles Northwest of Dublin, Ireland, and over 100 miles East of Nenagh.  There he held meetings for the Faith Mission for three weeks, from October 10 to 31, and “forty persons got converted.” (Bright Words November, 1897).  As far as we know, John Long was not present at this mission.

"...from Nenagh's first visit, William [Irvine] went to Rathmolyon through the Carroll's introduction, where...he had another very successful mission, getting hold of nearly all the best type of character in the place, including the Gills, Carrolls, Hastings, Winters and others, and from there back to Nenagh a second time, after which he booked for here." ["here" is Cloughjordan, home of G. Pattison] (G. Pattison in Account of the Early Days).

According to John Long, "... a young man named Jack Carroll...had a brother, Bill Carroll, who was a steward at Captain Fowlers, Rathmolyon, County Meath. Through their instrumentality they got the use of the School House in Rathmolyon for a mission for William Irvine, where forty persons got converted; most of them afterwards gave up their situations to go fully on the Lord's work." (John Long's Journal, 1897) (Photo of School House)

The Faith Mission periodical, Bright Words Dec., 1897 "Location of Pilgrims," stated Wm. Irvine held missions in Ireland in Rathmolyon from October 10 thru 31, 1897.

Fannie Carroll was 14 when she professed in Irvine's Rathmolyon mission. She said: "The meetings only lasted for three weeks, but 14 workers went out of that mission. Some have gone on to their reward. A very few did not continue...Willie Gill...was the first from the mission we had professed in to go into the Lord’s harvest field." (October 1964 Santee, California Convention). Willie Gill is shown as entering the work in 1900 on the 1905 Workers List.

Garrett Hughes (deceased American Overseer) mother was Mary Ann (Gill) Hughes, the sister of Willie Gill.  Garrett reported a similar account of what he referred to as "the beginning" at the October 6, 1987, funeral service for Erling Omdal in Eagle Bend, MN: "Ninety years ago, a letter came from Ireland. We heard about those with no home, no name, etc. Forty people made their choice. Sixteen went out in the work - that was the beginning...There is not a country not open to the gospel now. It is the most marvelous thing ever to happen." [NOTE: 1987 minus 90 years = 1897, the year of the Rathmolyon Mission.]

Jack Jackson stated at Willie Gill's funeral at West Hanney, England, on June 5, 1951, that by his calculations, it was 53 years and 8 months since Willie and some others at Rathmolyon made their choice saying, "Lord what will Thou have me to do?" This dates back to October, 1897.


1897, NOVEMBER 1-6 NENAGH MISSION #2:  Wm. Irvine returned and held a second mission in Nenagh. John Long wrote: 

“…William Irvine had returned to Nenagh and had a mission in the Presbyterian Church...Some new persons decided for Christ, and some old believers were stirred up...and the whole town was in a ferment of revival element. (John Long's Journal Nov. 1897).  G. Pattison wrote: I believe, but am not quite sure, that from Nenagh's first visit William [Irvine] went to Rathmolyon... and from there back to Nenagh a second time, after which he booked for here. [Cloughjordan] (Goodhand Pattison Account of the Early Days)

That mission (Cloughjordan) ended up with an All Days Conference; when the Christians from Roscrea and Nenagh came to our help. Open air preaching for years was an unknown thing in the town of Cloughjordan; the inhabitants being mostly Romans of a bigoted type. In the evening William Irvine suggested an open air march through the street, which took the inhabitants by surprise. Outside the Methodist Church we formed a circle and sang the best of all hymns. (John Long's Journal December, 1897)

Nenagh Mission #2 was followed by several missions all held within a 20 mile radius of Nenagh: Roscrea, Cloughjordan, Finnoe, Borrisokane, and Templederry.  Other missions held in this area were Lorrha, Portumna, Moneygall and Behamore. G. Pattison wrote: "Neither do I remember how or by whom the Lorrha or Portumna Missions were held, at which probably John and Tom Clarke, Richard Dagg, Tot Dane, the Hodgins family and others were brought in. I think there must have been meetings at Bailey's home below Portumna where Tom Turner heard the message and accepted it." (G. Pattison in Account of the Early Days).

1897, NOVEMBER 7-21 ROSCREA MISSION, KINGS COUNTY: John Long writes: “On hearing of the Revivals in Nenagh and Rathmolyon, Pastor Crookshanks invited William Irvine to have a mission there [Roscrea], when many young people decided for Christ, and the endeavour meetings got great blessing." (John Long's Journal October, 1897)  The Faith Mission's publication Bright Words showed that Wm. Irvine held a mission in Roscrea from November 7 thru 21, 1897; and John Kelly was shown to be preaching in Scotland.  They would later become workers in Irvine's movement. (Bright Words Dec. 1897)

1897: NOVEMBER - DEATH OF WILLIAM IRVINE'S MOTHER: In November of 1897, "William, at this time, was called back to Scotland owing to the illness or death of his mother..." according to G. Pattison.  Earlier in March of 1897, Irvine “went back to Queenzieburn, Kilsyth, to see his sick mother, who at that time gave herself to Jesus."  Then in November, "William Irvine crossed to Scotland, just in time to see his mother before her death" (John Long's Journal Nov. 1897). 

Elizabeth Grassam Irvine died on November 25, 1897 at the age of 64. Her Death Certificate gave the cause as "Valvular Disease of the Heart (one month) Hemorrhage, infarction of Lung," and listed William Irvine as the informant present at her death. Wm. Irvine wrote the following in a letter: 

"My mother broke her heart in trying to hinder me from doing what I did. The minister would come to comfort, speaking evil of my attempts to do what he thought impossible, and offer me his pulpit if I would cease. My doctor came personally to me to tell me I was killing my mother by my conduct; and all my relatives tried to blame my activities in fighting world, flesh and devil, in going against the whole Religious, Political & Educational powers on the earth - and I am all alone. But both Mother and Father on their death bed said I was right, and the best son they had." (Letter to Maurice Canada, August 23, 1933).

1897, DECEMBER - CLOUGHJORDAN MISSION, CO. TIPPERARY: In December, 1897, John Long wrote: "Pastor Whittaker started a mission in Cloughjordan to prepare the way for the coming of William Irvine to that needy town; I left Roscrea and went to help there…" (John Long's Journal Dec, 1897).  "The mission closed accordingly, after about 10 days in all, during which time several persons had professed decision to serve the Lord" according to G. Pattison.

Cloughjordan was the hometown of John Long and Goodhand PattisonJohn wrote: "During his [Wm. Irvine's] stay in Cloughjordan, I invited him out to our home in Burntwood, for a cup of tea, and the humble and loving way by which he dealt with my brothers and sisters sowed the seed, and prepared the way for their conversion which happened within one year afterwards." (John Long's Journal, Dec. 1897)

Workers' Early Focus: “We are not starting a new religion. We are earnestly contending for the faith once delivered to the saints” and trying to separate it from the traditions of men, because there is not a doctrine in the word of God that has not been corrupted by the professing church. God's message to those who fear and love him in every age is, 'Come out of her my people; be not partakers of her sins that ye receive not her plagues.' " (Rev. 18: 4) (Comment by Within, Impartial Reporter, October 7, 1909, p. 8)

Jude 1:3 : Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.


There is more about John Long in Chapter 20


THE CARROLL FAMILY of RATHMOLYON:

There were six (6) Carroll children born to William Carroll and Cecilia (Christie) Carroll, who were married in 1875 in Dublin South, Ireland.  Their father was only 47 years old when he died on January 23, 1897.  He left behind a widow and six unmarried children. William (Bill) Charles was 21; John (Jack) Thomas was 19, Mary Georgiana (May) was 18, Agnes Josephine (Aggie) was 15, Frances (Fannie) Christie was 13 and Primrose Cecilia was 7.  Mrs. Carroll died in 1916 in Dublin, age 62.

It would only be seven (7) months later that same year that Wm. Irvine would hold his Revival Mission in Nenagh, Co., Tipperary, where Jack and May were working. Some of the Carrolls attended those meetings. Jack, May and Fannie all made their choices in 1897.  All of them went in the work (including Bill's wife Maggie), except for Agnes who married Harry Weir.  The four siblings plus Maggie died in the harness (remained there until they died.  Jack Crroll entered the work February 16, 1904.

Three married: Bill, Agnes and Primrose. Bill and his wife Margaret were a married worker couple. Agnes married Harry Weir.  Primrose was in the work for a short time; then married Richard Perrott, and she and her husband left the 2x2 church. 

They were first cousins to the Christies, since their mother, Cecilia, was a sister to John Christie, father of Dave, May, Minnie and Eva (Christie) Calwell. Dave Christie married Emily Wilson and they pioneered Hawaii as a married couple.

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