To The Church Without a Name, The Truth, Two By Twos
1931 Ontario - RE Millbrook, Ontario Convention
July 09, 1931 - The Impartial Reporter - Convention at Greenhill, near Brookeborough, on property of Albert Pogue
December 11, 1931 - The Great Falls Tribune, Montana - Tom Lyness seriously wounded in Bozeman by Irate Husband
June 27, 1940 - RE: Edward Cooney
July 11, 1940 - The Impartial Reporter - Convention at Gortaloughan
March 10, 1947 - The Palestine Post, page 2 - OBITUARY of Wm Irvine
March 16, 1947 - RE: Death of William Irvine
March 20, 1947 - Notice of Probate of Last Will of Wm Irvine.
Milbrook Convention, 1931
Arriving by train and motor from U.S.A., Quebec, and from many parts of Ontario, approximately four hundred delegates were in attendance at the three day annual convention of a religious body. The members of which claim they have 'no name', though the simple word 'disciple' is apparently the designation most favor.
The gathering being held for the third successive season at the Harry Riley's farm over the weekend, opening Friday at 2:30 p.m.. and convening again the same evening. The genuine religious enthusiasm and interest of the devotees of this sect is proved by the fact that they sit patiently and apparently with a real fervor of enjoyment, through sessions lasting from two and a half hours to three hours daily on Saturday & Sunday, in addition to the two on the initial day of Convention.
A big tent with separate entrances for the men and women, who sit in distinctly separate sections during the meetings, as there is no mingling of the sexes throughout. The Convention is amply supplied with seating accommodation for the delegates and for any visitors who may come. Many carloads motoring from the village and surrounding country side, and all being heartily welcomed to the meetings.
Two other large tents on the grounds serve as dining halls, one for men and others for women, while near by sheds are equipped as kitchens with workers in either cases of the same sex, as the occupants of the respective tents.
Sleeping accommodation for the women delegates is arranged for in the farm house of Mrs. Riley and J. Inns the latter a short distance across the fields, and for the men the barns and other out buildings were fitted in a manner that they could be used comfortably as sleeping apartments during the two or three nights while Convention lasted.
A community of goods is one of the ....... endorsed in actual practice by the disciples though no definite information regarding defraying the necessary and somewhat heavy expenses of the Convention would be divulged.
However the fact was quite evident that those who had shared equally and gladly with those who had not. No offering is taken at any of the meetings.
Such personal adornments as jewelry, silk hose, sleeveless dresses, or bobbed hair were conspicuous by their absence. But into the meetings the delegates came supplied with Bibles, hymnals, and in many cases with note books and pencils in order to carry home choice selections from the addresses for quiet study and meditation in the weeks ahead.
This religious body claims it has no bishop, or other elected or appointed head, different leaders taking charge of the informal sessions of the Convention. The one on Sunday afternoon being Arnold Schaffer, a worker in Germany, now home on furlough. Another worker from a distant field was Jack Jackson from South America. Christian names were used as the delegates speak of one another, no prefixes of any kind being heard among the adherents.
"Hymns Old and New" is the book used for singing, printed in Scotland, there is no instruments, but congregational singing is hearty and melodious, the majority of the worshippers seeming to know the words of the hymns announced by heart.
After an opening hymn or two, for which the audience remain seated, testimonials are asked for, and so ready is the response that usually two or three are on their feet at once waiting, their personal experience of salvation through Christ. The request for prayers is met in the same manner, one after the other leading without a moment being lost through waiting or hesitation.
At the Sunday p.m. service after prayers and testimonies which lasted more than an hour, two of the women delegates took the platform and spoke earnestly with a hymn between. They were followed by two young men who also had a personal message based on Scripture passages.
The leader Mr. Schaffer continued the exhortation and like others urging faithful witnessing in speech and conduct. "All that the Lord hath said unto us, will we do" was stressed as the ideal for daily living.
Several car loads of the delegates motored to Rice Lake early on Sunday morning for a baptismal service. Those wishing this solemn rite signifying their desire by standing when the request was made at the Saturday eve. meeting.
The 1932 Convention will in all likelihood be held again on the Riley farm, the practice being for a number of workers to arrive three or four weeks ahead of time to put up tents and have every thing in readiness before the opening day when the delegates begin to come in large numbers, and many from distant points.
There is no formal closing such as a benediction, at the closing saying
seven o'clock the next meeting at the conclusion of the p.m. gathering,
and the delegates rise and go quietly out. Large gasoline lanterns
light the tent for the evening meeting.
My Grandmother ended this in the middle of the page, if there was more she didn't copy it.. This is very hard to read, as it is on onion skin paper, and falling to pieces. I am trying to find the newspaper this might have been published in.
By the way, Milbrook is about a 20 minute drive from my home now, and I was baptised there in the early 1940's. One of the Riley girls, Lorna, went into the work. She would be a little older than I am.
Thought you might be interested in this, I think this must have been written up in a newspaper, or maybe was suppose to be. However I found it with some poems etc. all in my grandmother's hand writing.
July 9, 1931
I spent last Sunday with the Saints, or ‘Christians’ as they call themselves. Other people call them ‘Pilgrims’ or ‘Dippers.’ For the past week the annual convention of those of the Fermanagh confraternity was being held at Greenhill, near Brookeborough, where Mr. Albert Pogue placed his house, out-offices and lands at the disposal of those attending.
Sunday was naturally the day of the largest attendance. From all parts of the county, men and women fore-gathered for the three services or ‘meetings,’ and special ‘buses’ were chartered to carry those who could not get by motor car.
I DO PENANCE
Seated in the large marquee tent, I was jammed between a mass of humanity. Fully 600 were there, seated on wooden forms with backs, listening for hour upon hour to addresses and prayers, and the singing of gospel hymns. The tent was filled 15 minutes before the hour to commence each meeting. So crowded were the afternoon and night meetings that wooden forms were placed in the aisles. These had no backs, were six inches in width, and by the nature of the ground the angle at which the edge of the seat pressed upon the tender part of one’s anatomy, more accustomed to a soft seat, was most uncomfortable. How some of the people endured this for two hours, sitting all the time, I knew not. I was one of those unfortunates.
CLERGY AND CHURCHES TABOO
How earnest everyone appeared to be! What religious enthusiasm! And yet what a difference to the conventions and meetings of 25 years ago. The clergy were not mentioned once. Not one reference was made to the Churches. No personal abuse. No hell’s fire and damnation. No blood and thunder. Not one word was said to hurt the feelings of the most susceptible. Eddie Cooney at one time a leader in the movement, now an outsider. Dethroned! Eddie, at present in Fermanagh, was not there! He ploughs his lonely furrow in the same old way—denunciation of all and sundry, abusing the Churches and the clergy, and counting only himself and those that agree with him to be on the right straight path for heaven.
A FERMANAGH PREACHER
At the morning meeting, which continued for almost three hours, the principal speaker was George Walker, a native of the Coa District of Fermanagh. ‘George,’ as he is called by everyone—not even the leaders get the courtesy title ‘Mister’—is a polished speaker, of refined appearance. As a young man, when in the late Mr. W. R. Cooney’s establishment in Enniskillen, he was a good looking youth and he has preserved his good looks. His address was learned, interesting, and full of force. He was in the place once occupied by Wm. Irvine, the pioneer of this great movement, a man of magnetic power, rugged, a strong personality, a forceful speaker, and at one time worshipped as a leader of men and women. George Walker spends most of his time in America, but has not got the American twang. He will shortly visit the Continent. He has a charming manner. What is more, he is an anti-Prohibitionist.
‘SAINTS’ AND ‘WORKERS’
In the afternoon George Walker again occupied a seat on the platform with Jack Forbes, of Dublin, and Jim Dunlop, from the ‘Ould County Down.’ We had singing, then a lot of praying by various persons, as the spirit moved them. Testimonies followed by seven men and two women—some delivering almost a short sermon. A solo was sung by ‘a sister’—about eight verses of a hymn. Jack Forbes spoke, and recalled the convention of 24 years ago  at Mullaghmeen, Tom Betty and the baptisms in Lough Erne. He spoke also of those present as ‘saints’ and ‘workers,’ and delivered a fine address upon a passage in Genesis 24.
A WOMAN GETS IT OVER
The one great difficulty was to hear all the speakers. Some,
when leading in prayer, spoke in such a confidential tone, that their words
could only be heard by those in the immediate vicinity. It was a
relief to hear Jennie Clarke, of Newtownards. Her voice rang throughout
the large tent with seeming ease. Talking or singing in a tent is
a great strain. Canvas deadens the resonance of the voice.
The evening service was like the others, only the speakers talked about themselves and their families, their religious experiences, and how they succeeded in getting ‘saved.’ The prayers were not all begging—but prayers of thankfulness. The singing was hearty, and a good example to the churches. Everyone sang, whether he or she had a voice or not. Some near me were seldom within three tones of the note. Never mind. They put their heart into it, and that was the main thing. A Dutchman was one of the speakers. Nat Dickson, who once had a business in the house now occupied by Mr. Graves, in Forthill Street, Enniskillen, was the central figure on the platform.
It was a hard day’s work. One needs to be in training to endure
it. Three hours in the morning! Two hours in the afternoon! At the evening meeting, after we had five or six addresses (I lost count
of them), a New Zealander spoke for 45 minutes!! Jim Dunlop asked
us to sing a hymn, and he took pity on our legs, and asked us to stand
for the last two verses. What a respite! And I had taken care
to get into ‘the stalls’ for this meeting.
Jim then referred to some of the coughing, which he said was catching, and was spreading through the assemblage. There was, he complained, a spirit of heaviness. If it continued he could not speak. He saw people half asleep—(we had just listened to a number of addresses, and one of 45 minutes from the New Zealander). If that went on, he said, he felt he could not do much good, although he sympathised very much with those who had been sitting all day in that heavy atmosphere. His hearers sat up at the rebuke, and Jim continued for 20 minutes telling us all about himself and his conversion.
Each meeting ended abruptly at the close of the main address with the words, ‘Next meeting will be at—o’clock.’ No prayer. No benediction. One of the brethren had prayed early in the day: ‘Save us from all form and ceremony.’
HOW THEY WERE FED
The 600 who went to Greenhill on Sunday were fed! It worked like clock-work. Lyons of London could not have been more expeditious. A dinner of stewed meat and vegetables was served, and in the late afternoon, tea was also served in the large out-offices to all. It was wonderful to see the pyramids of butter and the hundreds of loaves of bread and pots of jam. For those that were staying at Greenhill, a large tent housed the men and in the out-offices the women slept.
‘JUST TOO BAD’
Two points struck me. The men and the women sat apart.
Even the bridegroom was torn from his bride. As the Americans say
‘Wasn’t that just too bad?’ And the dress of the saints—black is
popular with the women, and the men wear black ties. Rather mournful.
Why should not religion be bright and cheerful in all respects? Black
has a depressing effect on the eye and therefore reacts on the brain.
It was a great day despite the rain. Seven hours of singing, praying, and speaking. It required enthusiasm to stand it, and these saints went home telling each other ‘I’ll see you at the meeting in the morning.’ Another day’s hard ‘labour in the vineyard.’
July 11, 1940
At any time, and in any place where a large number of people are quiet,
are concentrated on one objective, it is impressive. In this way
the assembly of about 300 people in the fine large tent at Gortaloughan,
three miles from Enniskillen, makes an impression. The occasion was
the annual convention of a sect which calls itself ‘The Saints,’ which
took place from Friday till Sunday last.
About a tent there is sub-consciously a mental link with gaiety of some sort—a circus, a booth at a fair, a wedding reception, a garden fete, so that at first the quietude of this tentful of people struck a note of surprise. For they were amazingly still, the sexes in their own sections. Possibly grass does deaden any shuffling of feet, possibly the benches were more comfortable than ordinary church pews, but there were no irritating movements of a bored people.
On a raised dais were three men, not remarkable in any outward way, though to be in this more exalted position they must have been leaders. Hymns were sung at intervals, these intervals being spontaneously decided by one of the leaders as various speakers in the congregation sat down. Such were not addresses or speeches, but testimonies, mostly quite inaudible to a large section of those present. All those who gave their testimony were wrestling with poor miserable words, trying to make them fit and express the great joy they felt. ‘It is nice that God can get so many together like this.’ This is almost childish in words, and in no way adequate to the very real sincere emotion that struggled for expression.
For such a large crowd unaccompanied by any instrument and not conducted in any way, the singing was good. It was on the slow side and each note was carried on to next, so that no one had to make any decisive musical interval; this may have kept the whole in tune and up to the starting pitch. For people who are accustomed to sing so much, it was odd that no musical ability in harmonising was heard.
From anything that the writer heard it would be very difficult to know anything of the belief of this large sect. The words ‘God,’ ‘Lord,’ ‘Christ,’ and ‘Jesus,’ were used very loosely, yet most of the men and women were quite expert in their Bible knowledge. One speaker was almost bumptious in his lumps of facts, so-and-so was to be found 14 times, and another instance i.e., sheep were referred to 500 times, and this speaker slung about chapters and verses with such arithmetical fluency that it entirely took from whatever point he was trying to stress.
Scientists say that there is no such thing as time in reality, only it suits us to mark out days, years, etc.—within this meeting there was no time, for speakers took what they wanted without any thought for others, or so it seemed. One wondered if any of those farmers would allow Sir Basil, or the tillage or horticulture man, go on talking for endless periods without calling a halt. It must be conceded that nothing could exceed the attention and concentration of the congregation, as if they were hypnotised by words.
All down the ages ‘speaking under inspiration’ has been a recognised form of spiritual ecstacy, but those who were the focus of attention had none of the signs of this. As plain men they gave of what they had, in a plain way to plain people, no forced voice, no shouts, no bullying. The soft sharp ring of rain on the tent was heard at times, quite small children and even infants made a certain amount of trifling noise, but none of these outward things registered on the listeners.
Much was said about sheep, and in a farming community it did arise in the mind the question as to what a sheep farmer would have said to this monologue. Neither farmers nor butchers find anything very uplifting or aesthetic about animals. But words and more words have a hypnotic power.
Added to this the air was devitalised rather, needing fresh oxygen, and a head or two did nod. An exceedingly interesting study this tentful of people, some turning leaves of the Bible, some taking notes in pencil, all enthused with religious fervour, but its trend not very clear to the outside observer.
June 27, 1940
Certain larger towns and cities frequently have a pamphlet published entitled ‘What’s on,’ giving the list of entertainments for the current week. Were this idea used in Enniskillen one would find mention of the programmes of the two Cinemas—and ‘Eddie Cooney’! Strangers might at first imagine this was some new entertainer or comedian, and possibly they would not be very far wrong, for he does entertain and he can be quite a comedian. He has practically no accent, and he never spoke anything but excellent English.
AN ITINERANT PREACHER.
This man, the son of the late Mr. Rutherford Cooney, merchant of Enniskillen,
left home 40 years ago to become an itinerant preacher. Now he is
74 years of age, of attractive slim build, pleasant visage, noticeably
youthful for his age, despite the white beard, and his voice is a great
asset. On these evenings he addresses whatever people assemble in
a fair sized room that is situated above Miss Haire’s shop in Enniskillen.
No publicity, no printed notice gives any clue to these meetings, but the
door on the street level is open. And it is even doubtful if the
meeting is truthfully within the scope of these articles entitled ‘Where
Our People Worship,’ because although prayer was given at the conclusion,
and the subject matter is entirely biblical, yet it is only one man haranguing
others. No reading of portions of Scriptures, no hymns gave the audience
any chance to take part; it was simplicity itself—Eddie Cooney preached.
The room held ten benches and 23 people were present. Three windows gave on the street and this upper room had a floral wallpaper. No texts or sacred pictures lent any aid. But the speaker needs no aid. His egotism is stupendous, the same mentality as some of the dictators in prominent places today. Eddie Cooney is right, Eddie Cooney knows. Just as Hitler impresses his crowds by heavy impassioned speech, so does Eddie Cooney ‘put himself over.’
Voices today are a source of interest. Through the B.B.C. and the screen we are susceptible to their power. We are cognisant of their focus, their charm, their tenderness. This preacher has a fine physical vehicle for his words, and he can speak with softness and good tone. He can laugh as an actor, can at will imitate some foible of human nature as when he acted rich people being shown into church by the verger, or the fake conversation of the girl who feared if she ‘followed Jesus’ she would not get a sweetheart. Voice and facial expression respond very freely to the mental idea. With this variety he could never be dull, but this cleverness of ‘putting things over’ was spoilt by excessive shouting. The room was a normal sized ‘best room’ in the town, and the shouts were almost deafening—certainly capable of giving a headache. The writer told the speaker that if he were going to shout like that with the whole volume of his fine voice in an indoor meeting, he ought to supply the congregation with aspirin! Surprisingly, showing a sweet disposition, he said he was sorry.
There was no text, but sleeping in a barn, preaching on the Custom House steps in Belfast, talking in a Theological College in Melbourne, smelling an uncertain egg in London—all this formed part of the discourse. Sheep-shearing in Australia and baptizing in Belfast Lough, also had their part in this long harangue. Several statements were delivered with exceptional force ‘God has planned the husband you are to get’; ‘One must be on fire like Isaiah to save souls, to touch hearts’; ‘If your religion is one by which you get (gain) you will go to hell’; ‘the majority is always wrong’; ‘the people in Enniskillen were doped and sleeping’; ‘Joy is only real that is based on certainty.’
Several of the analogies used by Eddie Cooney were most original, for instance Jesus is portrayed as a lamb, a lamb has wool, and this ‘wool’ will make people eternally comfortable, both here and hereafter. Similarly a ring is a symbol of eternity. When the Prodigal Son wore the ring his eternal life showed in his life and acts. There was a great repetition of the phrases ‘become a disciple,’ ‘follow Jesus,’ ‘surrender to Christ,’ but at no time did the speaker indicate in plain terms what he really meant. Although it was quite obvious that Eddie Cooney despised clergymen who went to College, yet he had to show his own learning by showing up the real meaning of ‘believe’ which connotes ‘to live by,’ also he felt called on to put right the mis-translation from the Greek of ‘Glory to God in the highest, and on earth good will to men,’ for according to his private college education this should read ‘Peace on earth to those who are pleased to do well.’
As the address lasted about an hour and a half, without any break,
much ground was covered. The war, with invasion imminent in this
country, was spoken of, (again the egotism). ‘Probably Hitler will
kill me first.’ No one was to fear those that killed the body.
The fight going on today between God and the Devil was bigger than our
fight with Germany, and it is quite evident that Eddie Cooney enjoys this
fight. Life would be very dull for him without this contest!
The word ‘Peace’ was never uttered!
In conclusion this long monologue was brought to a most telling and impressive close. The dramatic instinct is strong. Speaking of the act of Stephen the first martyr, Eddie Cooney hoped that if Hitler came and he was killed, he would use the same concluding words as the martyr, ‘Lord, lay not this sin to their charge.’
A correspondent writes:
A well known figure in Jerusalem passed away with the death yesterday after a long illness, of Mr. William Irvine of Kilsyth, Scotland. Mr. Irvine died in his 84th year after having resided in Palestine since 1919, where he came in pursuit of his beliefs. He will be remembered by many who knew him as the kindly old white-haired gentleman seen on his daily walk between the Post Office and the Old City walls. He died with the full faith of better things to come. The interment will take place at the Zion Cemetery at 2:30 p.m. today.
March 16, 1947
WILLIAM IRVINE is dead. His name means nothing to the younger generation, but those who can recall the great ‘Pilgrims’ or ‘Dipper’ conventions in Co. Fermanagh of about 30 years ago, will recall the tall, hatless figure of Wm. Irvine, who was at that time the ‘teacher’ and leader of the ‘Pilgrims.’ His rugged face, his dynamic personality, his strong and impressive address, swayed the thousands who gathered from all parts to hear him. The women folk adored him as a saint, and listened to him with rapt attention as if they were hypnotised. He was a lovable man and a real Christian.
A recent issue of the ‘Sunday Post’ contained an appreciation of Wm. Irvine which will be read with interest by those who remember him. It was as follows:
‘I was a soldier in Jerusalem. Maybe that makes you think of armed combats, of Arabs and Jews, and strange scenes and customs.But my most vivid memory is of a tall Scotsman with a great head of white hair. Every morning I saw him striding out of the Holy City towards the Garden of Gethsemane. He wore a deerstalker’s cap, heavy jacket, shorts, and suede sandals. He greeted nearly everyone he met with a smile and a word of encouragement. And they felt the better for meeting him. You knew at once there was something remarkable about the man.
‘He was William Irvine. Sixty years ago, at 35 years of age, he was general manager of William Baird and Company’s Boswell Collieries in Lanarkshire. He was only in his twenties then, and on the way to the top of his profession—a directorship. But he felt a higher call. He gave up his job. He founded in his native Kilsyth a movement, which is still active. He did not believe in churches of stone. A tent, or the open air, was all he wanted. He told his message with simple earnestness. Having founded his church in his native village, he felt he had to go with his message to foreign lands. He set out as a free-lance missionary. He went to Ireland, United States, Canada, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, the Colonies. He became known all over the world as ‘The Man with the Mission.’
‘He lived frugally. His needs were slight. Money had no value for him. ‘I have nothing,’ he said. ‘Yet—I lack nothing.' ‘He quoted from Luke, ‘Go your way. Behold, I send you forth, as lambs among wolves. Carry neither purse nor scrip nor shoes, and salute no man by the way.’ Between the two great wars he settled in Palestine. He received letters from all corners of the earth where his message was still remembered. During the second World War he became a favourite of the British troops. They called him Jock.
‘Then last Sunday I learned that in Jerusalem William Irvine had come to the end of his pilgrimage. He died, a single man, aged 84.’
WILLIAM IRVINE HAD TO GO
I was a soldier in Jerusalem. Maybe that makes you think of armed
combats, of Arabs and Jews, and strange scenes and customs.
But my most vivid memory is of a tall Scotsman with a great head of
Every morning I saw him striding out of the Holy City towards the Garden
He wore a deerstalker’s cap, heavy jacket, shorts, and suede sandals.
He greeted nearly everyone he met with a smile and a word of encouragement.
And they felt the better for meeting him. You knew at once there
was something remarkable about the man.
He was William Irvine. Sixty years ago, at 35 years of age, he was general manager of William Baird and Company’s Boswell Colleries in Lanarkshire. He was only in his twenties then, and on the way to the top of his profession—a directorship. But he felt a higher call. He gave up his job. He founded in his native Kilsyth a Pentecostal movement, which is still active. He did not believe in churches of stone. A tent, or the open air, was all he wanted. He told his message with simple earnestness. Having founded his church in his native village, he felt he had to go with his message to foreign lands. He set out as a free-lance missionary. He went to Ireland, United States, Canada, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, the Colonies. He became known all over the world as ‘The Man with the Mission.’
He lived frugally. His needs were slight. Money had no
value for him. ‘I have nothing,’ he said. 'Yet—I lack nothing.’
He quoted from Luke, ‘Go your way. Behold, I send you forth,
as lambs among wolves. Carry neither purse nor scrip nor shoes, and
salute no man by the way.’
Between the two great wars he settled in Palestine. He received
letters from all corners of the earth where his message was still remembered.
During the second World War he became a favorite of the British troops. They called him Jock.
Then last Sunday I learned that in Jerusalem William Irvine had come to the end of his pilgrimage. He died, a single man, aged 84.’
NOTE: Reportedly, the above was written by a young soldier named Irvine Noble, who was still living in 1997.
In the District Court of Jerusalem, Probate application No. 51___. Citation for Probate in the matter of The Will of William Irvine, deceased. Petitioner Theodore Krikorian, represented by B. Geichman, Advocate, Zion Bldg, Jaffa Road, Jerusalem. In virtue of an order of the District Court of Jerusalem, bearing date of this day, I do hereby cite all and all manner of persons to appear in the said court in 10 days from date hereof and show cause, if any, they have why the last will of William Irvine, deceased, should not be proved, approved and registerd to Theodore Krikorian, the executor named therein, as in default thereof the Court will proceed to grant the same accordingly. Dated this 15th day of March, 1947. (Sgnd) F. Saadeb, A/Registrar.
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